Question About Handling Dry Ice

Alcohol/acetone/solvents should be stored in the cans they come in....they are already labeled and have the necessary safety and toxicology info on them.

Storing anything but gasoline in a gas can (one labeled Gasoline) is illegal, BTW.
 
I actually use isopropyl alcohol (the kind from the drug store) instead of acetone for my dry ice baths. It's flash point is much higher so it doesn't give off too much in the way of perceptible fumes even at room temperature. At dry ice temperatures it turns into a thin syrup and has no odour at all.

I get my dry ice from my supplier as a bag of pellets, saves me having to crush it up myself.
 
Is there any problem/benefit to simply placing the blade between two pieces of dry ice? It seems it would allow a bit of a cooler temp (albeit perhaps only a few degrees) because it wouldn't have to cool the liquid medium...

Never understood that one myself. I recall reading that the alcohol medium is 10° warmer than the CO2 and never understood why it helps. I did it with alcohol in the beginning. Now I place the blade between the CO2 inside a thick foam cooler and listen to it scream. An hour later I pull it out.
 
Never understood that one myself. I recall reading that the alcohol medium is 10° warmer than the CO2 and never understood why it helps. I did it with alcohol in the beginning. Now I place the blade between the CO2 inside a thick foam cooler and listen to it scream. An hour later I pull it out.

Thanks zaph1...would also seem to greatly simplify the process.
 
There are many reasons a bath is a better method:

Direct contact with the dry ice would work.....the key word is direct. The reason you can hold a piece of dry ice bare handed ( don't do it, but you can) is because it never directly contacts your hand. There is a thin space of sublimating gas between you and it. This gas is a pretty good insulator.

Cooling is the transfer of heat from one material to another. The cold doesn't go in from the Dry Ice, it is the heat from the blade that has to come out. It needs a material that can transfer heat. Gasses are the poorest of heat transfer materials. Liquids are hundreds of times better. You can harmlessly reach inside a 400F oven and set a pan on the shelf. If you reach into a 200F pot of water, you come out with a severely damaged hand.

When a blade is placed between two blocks of DI, the blocks and the blade are bouncing back and forth in this gas layer, thus the screaming. Personally, I would not like to subject any untempered blade to severe vibration.

Some places are cooling faster than others. The cooling being done is the end of the quench, and just like quenching in a tank of oil, water, or air... it should be even throughout the blade and consistent in drop rate.

Placing a blade between two pieces of dry ice will also require a lot more DI than a slurry will.

Putting the DI in an alcohol bath will lower the bath to within 10° of the DI temp...which is low enough for the Mf conversion to finish.

Summation - The liquid in the bath assures even heat transfer across all blade surfaces at the same time and being liquid allows a smooth drop rate. Isn't that what quenching is all about?
 
Didn't see if it was already mentioned but the super cooled acetone or alcohol are the dangerous part. Even liquid nitrogen gets boiled by your skin and forms a vapor barrier. The alcohol or acetone won't since it's boiling point is much higher. It will just stick to you or in your clothing and freeze your flesh... so be careful :)
 
The blade is in the oven right at this moment. So I'll be keeping all of your collective instructions and cautions in my mind shortly.
 
No issues with the dry ice. Everything went as planned. The blade is nice and straight and in the tempering oven presently. Thanks for everyone's help.
 
Don't touch it with your tongue.
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