Question about hinderer

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i just recieved a hinderer xm18 and i love it. However the flipping action is a little less than desirable.
So i too two 9mm shell casings and loosened the pivot as much as possible without affecting the blade centering.
Now i can get it to fly out using the thumb stud. How using the flipper i only get about 3/4 deployment.
What is the average break in period on a hinderer? I dont want to do a disassembly (not that im afraid to, im just not one to needlessly take tools apart for the heck of it) if its not necessary.
If a disassembly is required to get an acceptable flipping action i will.
If this is the case what lube is vest suited for the xm18?
I have all the typical gun oils ie. slip2000, rem oil, breakfree clp etc.
Thanks in advance for any input.
My apologies if this has been discussed before.
 
Doesn't need any lube. Didn't need any adjustment, either. Just open it and use it for a couple of weeks. It'll be fine.

Whitty has a good video on Youtube about breaking in Hinderers.
 
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Should i tighten it back up? Will my loosening of the pivot affect the break in or long term functionality?
Thank you
 
If it were mine... I'd try to get it back to where it feels sort of like it did when you first got it. Doesn't have to be exact. Then let it break in naturally for a couple of weeks. It'll start getting noticeably easier to flip and to open the traditional way. Once it's working more to your liking, then you can adjust the pivot where you like it. It'll also break in a little quicker than it will if the pivot is looser.

I've got 2 new Hinderers that are settling in nicely after being with me for 2-4 weeks now. The XM-18 is about a month old and is now just about perfect for flicking (non-flipper). The MP-1 only took about a week before it started flipping all the way open and locking with just a light switch technique and no wrist action. I can even hold the blade straight up and down and flip it open pretty easily now.

One of the advantages to Hinderer's teflon (or whatever material it is) washers is that they need less in terms of added lube than other washers. Less lube means they stay drier and attract less dirt / lint than washers that have a coating of lube on them constantly.

I recommend the USAMadeBlade video on break-in. That's Whitty in the video describing how a Hinderer breaks in.
 
View media item 33Dalefuller has given you great advice. Use it and it will function smoothly in a couple weeks. I have slightly adjusted the pivot on mine to find that "sweet spot" and the flipping action is surprisingly good on all of mine. Congrats on your purchase!
 
If I remember correctly (correct me if I am wrong) the "flipper tab" was designed to be guard for the hand, rather than a traditional flipper tab. I have owned a few Hinderer's and none of them had exceptional actions until they were broken in, it just takes time as dalefuller said.
 
dalefuller said:
If it were mine... I'd try to get it back to where it feels sort of like it did when you first got it. Doesn't have to be exact. Then let it break in naturally for a couple of weeks. It'll start getting noticeably easier to flip and to open the traditional way. Once it's working more to your liking, then you can adjust the pivot where you like it. It'll also break in a little quicker than it will if the pivot is looser.

I've got 2 new Hinderers that are settling in nicely after being with me for 2-4 weeks now. The XM-18 is about a month old and is now just about perfect for flicking (non-flipper). The MP-1 only took about a week before it started flipping all the way open and locking with just a light switch technique and no wrist action. I can even hold the blade straight up and down and flip it open pretty easily now.

One of the advantages to Hinderer's teflon (or whatever material it is) washers is that they need less in terms of added lube than other washers. Less lube means they stay drier and attract less dirt / lint than washers that have a coating of lube on them constantly.

I recommend the USAMadeBlade video on break-in. That's Whitty in the video describing how a Hinderer breaks in.
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Thank you sir
 
Couple of things. First, I would adjust the pivot to the point where if you loose it further a tiny bit, side to side blade play will show. Then, practice your flipping technique. The key is to push down/backward the flipper firmly and as fast as you can. My xm-18 was similar to yuors when I first received, but I found the flipping technique matters more.
 
sharp_edge said:
Couple of things. First, I would adjust the pivot to the point where if you loose it further a tiny bit, side to side blade play will show. Then, practice your flipping technique. The key is to push down/backward the flipper firmly and as fast as you can. My xm-18 was similar to yuors when I first received, but I found the flipping technique matters more.
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Thank you
 
The flipper action on Hinderers is just a bit different from say a ZT ... its almost a slight forward pressure before the flip instead of straight back ... once you get used to it it will seem simple ... just takes that slight adjustment in pressure.
 
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JJ_Colt45 said:
The flipper action on Hindereres is just a bit different from say a ZT ... its almost a slight forward pressure before the flip instead of straight back ... once you get used to it it will seem simple ... just takes that slight adjustment in pressure.
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thank you
 
Your Hinderer will break in with use. While all four of my Hinderers flip easily, they still don't fly open like my ZTs. That's the difference between the bearings & teflon or pb washers. The Hinderers & Chris Reeve knives have more of a hydraulic feel even after break in.
 
All great suggestions above. Curious is it Working Finish, Stonewashed or some other sort of finish?
 
thefamcnaj said:
Stone wash
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Interesting. I have not seen many stonewashed blades from Hinderer that need much if any break in time. Don't let it worry you. Some of the tightest and hardest to flip ones that I own have turned in to the best flippers over a short period of time.
 
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whitty said:
Interesting. I have not seen many stonewashed blades from Hinderer that need much if any break in time. Don't let it worry you. Some of the tightest and hardest to flip ones that I own have turned in to the best flippers over a short period of time.
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good to know
 
Just curious. Is your XM-18, 3" or 3.5"? Only ask because the 3" seems, to me, to take a bit longer to break in.... but it will. No need to worry.
 
Got my Hinderer a couple weeks ago. I have a love hate relationship with it. I love many things about it, but the lack of detent is so stupid it ruins the knife. It literally opens in my pocket without me knowing. I've actually cut myself twice so the knife will never be carried again. Just the pressure of my keys or my movement opened it slightly so the tip is exposed. I have a Wharncliffe and stabbed my hand twice on accident. Never happened with any other knife ever.

It flips ok, but only with proper technique. Push forward and flick back quickly. If the knife had a detent it would flip much better. IMO, ZT took the Hinderer design and tweaked and perfected it. My 0562CF will not be losing pocket time.
 
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