Question About OD-1

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RKH

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I just picked up an OD-1 at my local Wal Mart. It was not displayed but when I asked the helpful young man at the store he found one under the counter. One problem, when I grip the knife with just firm pressure the lock bar goes all the way over to the other side. The lock still appears to be solid no movement horizontal or vertical. I like the knife a lot. Very nice slim design. Love the way the flipper disappears when opened. Can any one advise me on the lock up? Thanks.

RKH
 
Mine doesn't do that. If it were me, I'd take a trip back to wally world
and try another one. They have a really good exchange policy.
 
I can get mine to travel almost all the way over if I use the Grip 'O' Death. I don't see it as a problem now or down the road.

RKH, if you'd feel better about it, exchange it. I'm sure WW would be accommodative.

EDIT: My Ti ZDP MC will do the same thing. In fact it's been doing it for almost 2 years on a daily basis.
 
SPXTrader said:
I can get mine to travel almost all the way over if I use the Grip 'O' Death. I don't see it as a problem now or down the road.

RKH, if you'd feel better about it, exchange it. I'm sure WW would be accommodative.
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Same for me...if I really squeeze it will travel all the way over. I switched the clip to tip down carry so now the clip prevents me from touching the lock bar even with a firm grip.
 
Thanks gents for the replies. SPXTrader, my TI Leek ZDP189 does the same thing. I really have never used it a lot but I did ask STR about it and he said his did the same thing and should not be a problem. I just wanted to run this by some of y'all and see what your ideas might be. Really like this knife. This is a great EDC light slim and sharp and quick in the hand and I do love the vanishing flipper and no thumb studs.Thanks again.

RKH
 
Both my OD-1s do the same thing. In fact, all of my Kershaw framelocks will do this with various amounts of pressure. No negative side-effects that I've noticed in any of them. Not even bladeplay.
 
RKH said:
Thanks gents for the replies. SPXTrader, my TI Leek ZDP189 does the same thing. I really have never used it a lot but I did ask STR about it and he said his did the same thing and should not be a problem. I just wanted to run this by some of y'all and see what your ideas might be. Really like this knife. This is a great EDC light slim and sharp and quick in the hand and I do love the vanishing flipper and no thumb studs.Thanks again.

RKH
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No problem. I'm glad we helped put your mind at ease.

The OD-1 is certainly a lot of knife for the money. I'm enjoying mine, but it will never knock the ZDP MC out of my pocket for any length of time. When ya find something this well made with top shelf materials, its difficult to rationalize retiring it!
 
Being that I am sooo fanatical about my knives I went to exchanged it at Wal-mart which they did. I thought I found an OD-1 that had a better lock up but after doing a little wood carving slicing this one does the same thing on the lock. I contacted a nice lady with Kershaw's warranty dept. and she said it should not do that and to send it in and they would fix it or swap it for another knife. I said no this OD-1 I have been waiting for and I love this knife. That is pretty good customer service when they will exchange it for a different model if I want to. I may use the knife for a while and then buy another OD-1 and send the other one in to be fixed. Funny thing on this one the ball detent is weak and does not retain the blade as secure as my Zings or ERNG-2. All in all the lock up is secure with no play so I am not to worried about the lock not holding up. I think the tang of the blade is not angled as much in comparing it to my other Kershaws. This is just such great looking knife and feels so nice in the hand. Thanks for all the input gentlemen.

RKH
 
My Kershaw Storm II does the same thing but the lock seems rock solid.
I have a different issue with my ENER-G2- the liner lock requires very little force to disengage. There's no blade play though.
 
When the OD-1 locks up it fits right behind the tang engaging about the width of the locking bar. It looks like perfect lock up. If I unlock it at this time it release with very little effort. But if I apply a little stronger grip as I would normal use to cut something and no I don't use a death grip it then takes a little more effort to unlock and the lock seems strong when the lock bar goes all the way to the other side. BTW, I had a Storm the smaller one that did the same thing and another Storm that did not. Go figure.

RKH
 
I brought this up back in the summer here about a Storm II and
was jumped on pretty hard from a Kershaw rep(not Thomas) that's on the board. I can't find the thread because I don't have the gold membership to
search. Do a search under my user name. I still don't like the way the
lock bar travels all the way over on Kershaws either. Maybe the tang needs to be more concave?
 
I don't think a frame lock should do that either Yerscattergun. I have a TI ZDP189 that does that as well as a Storm small one. I think the lock bar to the tang is not properly fitted. It could be the lock bar is a little short for proper engagement. I am talking thousands of an inch here very tiny tolerances. But the knife lock does seem secure even though the lock goes all the way to the other side. And combined with a weak ball detent it makes me a little nervous. Because with a liner lock there is no spring tension to keep the knife from closing. Although there is not much of a spring tension on a lock back. And once this liner lock begins to wear I would not trust the liner/frame lock. I will more than likely send it in so warranty can look at it. Thanks for adding to the topic Yerscattergun.

RKH
 
I would like to add the the framelock on my Skirmish has a tang that
is flat at the begining of the engagement and then gradually turns into
a prononced curve at the end. It would be impossible for this one to
go all the way over to the scale. I have noticed this on Striders and
a Boker M Type also. The tangs on all Kershaw framelocks appear to have less
curvature and be more of a gradually increasing flat tang(even the 0300 series).
 
I did notice that the OD-1 has a two slots in the tang which the stop pin goes in to whether the knife is closed or opened. This would make for a very secure lockup. I also noticed the tang area that mates with the lock bar is noticable reduced because of this.

RKH
 
The nice lady in the Warranty Dept. was wrong when she stated the OD-1 was defective (if that is what she said), because the lock bar could be pushed over to the far right. (Oh man, just another thing for 3G to jump on us for)

The OD-1 is a bit of a slippery slope when it come to lock up vs. action. We prioritized the action so the lock tension in minimal. Should we put too much lock tension, you would never be able to flip the knife open, ever. As long as there is no play when in the open position, I'm unsure what the problem is.

We are working some new internal geometry and some thicker spacers to improve on this, although IMO, the results will be minimal lock tension gain.

We've done internal tests on the solidness of the OD-1 frame lock, and have concluded that the lock is reliable and safe. Just remember that not all frame locks are the same, and the Overdrive mechanism on the OD-1 puts it in a class by itself.

Here is the thread yerscattergun is referring to, and it addresses frame locks in general:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533463

Still don't feel you got jumped on "pretty hard", but what the heck do I know...
 
There are just going to be trade offs with mechanisms that give you extreme opening abilities, and with the OD-1 it will be on the lock pressure side. It's still secure, but has lighter pressure than other models in the line.
 
Thomas W said:
The nice lady in the Warranty Dept. was wrong when she stated the OD-1 was defective (if that is what she said), because the lock bar could be pushed over to the far right. (Oh man, just another thing for 3G to jump on us for)
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Oh, brother let's hope not. There's been enough of that lately:D
 
yerscattergun said:
I would like to add the the framelock on my Skirmish has a tang that
is flat at the begining of the engagement and then gradually turns into
a prononced curve at the end. It would be impossible for this one to
go all the way over to the scale.
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I have a Mini-Skirmish with a similar shaped tang. I think there is a potential downside to the sharp curve. Yes it will prevent the lockbar from ever traveling all the way over. But it may also prevent the lockbar from self adjusting. I could see it developing blade play after like a gazillion openings.

Anyway, the lock on my Storm II gives me a lot of confidence, and that's what's most important. I can't believe how nice that knife is for the money. I have a Byrd Catbyrd that I also like at around the same price but it's made in China!
 
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