question about personal attacks

Originally posted by db:
Grow up, if you don't like a post or thread don't read it. That will stop it more than any thing else. Kind of hard to argue with yourself. I really never did understand why someone would post in a thread they didn't like and then keep reading it afterthey have bitched about it.
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UP YOURS
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I'm quite grown up, thanks. I realize some things are hard for you to understand, db. I have the same problem. I have a hard time understanding why some people think the rules of the forum don't apply to them. Apparently you didn't read Spark's post or do you assume it doesn't apply to you?

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Hoodoo

I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
 
Just a thought...

Another place I frequent instituted what would be called here, a "Flame Forum".

It allowed people to get their rants out and also let the moderators inforce the...

"Insults, lies, accusations, etc. that are designed to hurt or otherwise damage other's feelings or reputation"

...type rules a bit more strictly.

Just a thought.

This medium is very new to many people, I chuckle when I think about the offenders sitting down and actually writing down the things they say here. Then mailing the letter the next day, as would have been done ten years ago.

I think many things would remain unsaid.
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Steve-O
 
Good idea Steve. I kinda thought that was what the Wine and Cheese forum was for but I guess not. Maybe a Flame Forum would function like a relief valve. And I agree with your ideas about the medium. People say things on the internet they would never say face-to-face or even send in a letter. We are living in a brave new world. Say what you want with no fear of reprisal. But I fear it won't be long before the lawyers start taking a cut with slander suits.
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I used to be heavily involved in the archery newsgroups and finally got fed up and left due to the constant flame wars between traditional archers and compound archers. Every thread eventually devolved into this battle. It used to make spats in BF seem tame until recently. The first time I discovered this forum I was impressed by the way a bunch of strangers seemed to get along so well. There is still a lot of that going on here. I hope it will continue.

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Hoodoo

I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
 
<Steve-O chuckles> Wine and Cheese Forum? I didn't know it existed. I concentrate on 'Disussion' and 'Reviews'.

And if there were a 'Flame Forum', I'm sure that I wouldn't read it either, it's not what I come here for.
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Steve-O

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I guess I better chime in here.
First of all I too miss James dearly in many ways.

If I came across as attacking in those threads I apologize to all sincerely. That really is not my style on or off the net.

I was trying to make an honest attempt at making a point that there are strong ethics evident in the custom or hand made knife industry and they are unique. When those ethics are breached in reality or perception people are going to get upset. I would rather deal with reality, but perception also has an influence on all of us to one degree or another.

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In memory of James Mattis
 
its only knifemaking????? what an insulting statement. when you get seriously ill you want the dr.'s to say "hey its only medicine, whats the big deal if ya die?" or you get into a car wreck and kill someone you gonna say "hey, its only a car accident"?

steve b, i dont even think you read your own posts very well. knifemaking doesnt mean much to you so why do you bother posting so much about it? as others have said, you dont like certain ppls threads why is it you keep reading and posting only making less sense with each that you had to start with? seems to me you just like to hear yourself whine. come on over to whine&cheese
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...about this medium...

It seems somewhat analogous to being in your car out in the road. One feels a certain anonymity and thinks little of flipping someone off or yelling profanities when another driver does something to irritate you. Here we are, alone in our own homes, in front of our computers, zipping down the internet highway, oblivious to the fact that everyone else is really pretty much just like ouselves. All we want is our dignity and respectful treatment.

On the other hand, I see no reason to shy away from confrontation if the issue is important to you. The angry rhetoric and name calling is superfluous, though and often clouds the real issue. Arguing logically over a point requires a clear head. Giving in to anger quickly moves the focus away from the REAL issue, at which point the thread is merely a "shouting" match.

 
Thanks, ptn, for saying it so eloquently.

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Hoodoo

I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
 
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