Question for all you hot shot folder makers! :D

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I wanna make quality folders so bad I, well I can't taste it but I really wanna make some folders!!!
Heres the question:
Will you please write a list of the tools and little trick things you use to make those folders walk and talk and lock up tightern Dick's hat band?
Muchos grassyass!!!

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Take care!! Michael

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Have actually been mulling over this myself. I was looking at one book I found at the bookstore but the pictures were so dark it was hard to make much out. The name was "How to make a folding knife". Does anyone know of a better book. Saw one in Amazon...think it was ....The tacticle folding knife....somethign like that.... is this book better?

Michael
 
Hey Michael. I'll vouch for that book. As far as I am concerned, if you want to make line lock folders, thats the book you need. Excellent pictures and understandable explanations of all the steps.

Hugh

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well the list is LONG.....and so are the days....but I will give you some advice... make about 100 and then get back to us!!!
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Hmmm. Mike, get some of the cheapo kits, make them and then play with them until you like how they work, then use them for templates and then make your own from the templates. Thats how I am doing to make folders this summer!!
 
Tom is right. The list can go on and on. It would make for the longest thread in BF history.

I will suggest to read the books that Michael Schaap mentioned and then "play around" with some ideas. Of course you could find a folder maker close by and visit his shop. Then again, you could just bug the hell out of a maker (kinda like I have done to Kit Carson) with so many questions.

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Michael, I bought the book "The Tactical Folding Knife" A study of the anatomy and contruction of the liner-locked folder by Bob Terzuola. It is very good. Buy it here: (800) 258-0929 Krause Publications
 
I'm no knifemaker (unless you count the aluminium blade with cord wrap I made when I was 10), but I've gained a new appreciation for the guys who make folders from these two books:
- How to Make Folding Knives, Ron Lake
- The Tactical Folding Knife, Bob Terzuola

Personally, I found the Terzuola book to be more readable with some excellent diagrams of the liner lock mechanism. Actually made me feel I could build a folder after reading it - but I'm pretty sure the reality is a lot harder than it looks!

Red


 
I agree, that How to Make folding knives is a good book, but it's a lot easier to follow after you've already made some folders.

There's a book listed in the back of Terzoula's book, um, I think it's "How to make a lock-back folder with simple tools."

I have it, and it's pretty simple, yet explains things enough to help you out.

I went down to JP Moss to make my first folder, and it really helped me out, but I really had to pay for it too. But it was worth it.

The one thing that I could not be without when making folders is my Starrett 1" micrometer.

The more folders you make, the more jigs and fixtures you end up with (most guys anyway, not all).

As crappy of an answer as it is, Tom is right
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The question is a good one, but it's so loaded it makes a guys head spin.

Keep on tryin!
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Nick
 
Well I don't fall into the ranks of hot shot makers with qualtiy folders, but I guess I can share some of the experience I've gotten out of my on going attempts.
Books are good, but they won't teach you everything. At least for me, its much easier to learn by seeing things and doing things. I've learned a lot and am still learning from regrinding and making a new handle for an old delica. Taking it apart let me see exactly how everything fit up. I would strongly suggest you take apart an old folder you have thats of fairly good quality and study how it goes together. Or you can do like taz said and buy a kit. They however aren't very good from what I've seen, you'll learn more by playing with them and trying to make things fit up right with a little filing etc. than by looking at how they are as is.
As for tools, I'm struggling through with a hacksaw, a dremel, a set of small needle files, a 4x36 bench sander with a 6" disc and a worktable ( get a sqaure and make sure the table is as sqaure as possible when your using it to profile parts) a drill press,bits and taps, a woodworking bandsaw, and some other hand tools.
Now I really am struggling with just these tools. The locks aren't really the biggest part of the problem either(lockbacks). Filing them out by hand only takes patience and practice.
your alot better off if you have something like a bandsaw to cut out liners and things acurately, not to mention keep them flat. I cut out liners using the old million holes on the drill press and a hacksaw method and it worked, but it turns out that the liners got slightly bent and I may have to start over. Its important that everything is FLAT when you get to stacking peices. A qualtiy drill press is a must. The arbor on mine wobbles some and its hard to keep accurate placing for my holes. A center drill would probably help with that. Always center punch.
Get good drill bits, you want to cut holes through liners not punch them, that will also mess things up on fitting and you have to polish off that wire edge around the hole.
If your going to use screws, then a good set of taps is necessary. If your going to use pins then I would strongly suggest you have a lathe available to you. Extruded pinstock from the hardware store is not consistent in diameter. Try and buy good stuff if you can.
A milling machine would be nice but its not absolutely necessary, unless you want to make a business of making folders.In that case its not practical to file them out by hand. Hope that helps. Have fun.

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It is a Hossom blade isn't it Tom??
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[This message has been edited by Jonesy (edited 12-07-2000).]
 
Hehehehe,

Start with clear plexiglass, you can see all the mistakes from the get go.

Jonesy
 
Not much help now, but when the CKD forum gets back online, Tom had some great posts about making folders...
 
Thanks guys!!! It's amazing how involved making a folding knife is! I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually, just gotta keep trying and picking up little tidbits here and there.

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Take care!! Michael

Always think of your fellow knife makers as partners in the search for the perfect blade, not as people trying to compete with you and your work!
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Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms!!!
 
hmmmm, seems to me like you already are trying them out Michael! Got the parts today and they look great!
 
Yeaaaassss, half the journey is over!! Whew! Hope they don't get lost on their way home! Thanks for the notice Rob!!!

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Take care!! Michael

Always think of your fellow knife makers as partners in the search for the perfect blade, not as people trying to compete with you and your work!
http://www.nebsnow.com/L6steel
Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms!!!
 
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