For the Spyderco Sharpmaker, Spyderco lists the angles at 30 and 40 degrees. For the Lansky Professional, Lansky lists the angles at 20 and 25 degrees. I assume the Spyderco angle is for the total angle of the final edge while the Lansky Professional angles are for each side. Does anyone have more info on this?
Question On Angles For Crock Stick Sharpeners
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I can confirm the Sharpmaker angles are for total edge angle inclusive, but I am not familiar with the Lansky product.
Yes, Lansky is "inclusive". When you get your Lansky, each side will have guideholes starting at 17 deg (34 deg inclusive) and on up. It's out in the shop right now or I'd run out there and tell you all the angles it has. I used only the 17 to rebevel an edge...the others are too steep for anything else knife-wise (that I'm aware of). Then I turned to the Sharpmaker's 40 degree setting for a secondary bevel and final sharpening. So, in case this is confusing, my RAT-3 is honed at 17 degrees each side, with the final edge (or maybe micro-bevel) at 20 degrees each side.
I wish the Lansky had a setting for 15 degrees, but it doesn;t. I've been thinking though, depending on how you clamp the guiderods into the stones, you could very well lower the setting to 15 degrees or below. Haven;t tried it yet, though.
EDIT: I have the Deluxe....npt the Porfessional. I'm almost positive the Lansky Professional and Deluxe are the same, with different variety of stones. Your Professional's lowest setting will be 17 degrees, then 20, then 25, etc. Those settings ARE NOT inclusive angles. READ: 17(34), 20(40), 25(50) etc etc
I wish the Lansky had a setting for 15 degrees, but it doesn;t. I've been thinking though, depending on how you clamp the guiderods into the stones, you could very well lower the setting to 15 degrees or below. Haven;t tried it yet, though.
EDIT: I have the Deluxe....npt the Porfessional. I'm almost positive the Lansky Professional and Deluxe are the same, with different variety of stones. Your Professional's lowest setting will be 17 degrees, then 20, then 25, etc. Those settings ARE NOT inclusive angles. READ: 17(34), 20(40), 25(50) etc etc
Hi Stretch thank you for your detailed response, but I'm a little confused. The Lansky Professional crock stick sharpener only has holes for two angles which they describe as 20 and 25 degrees. It sounds like you are describing the Lansky system with the blade clamp and the angle guide. Is that correct?
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The lansky crock sticks are at 20 and 25 degrees per side, for 40 or 50 degrees inclusive.
Stretch was talking about the guided clamp system that lansky has, which has slots for 17, 20, 25, and 30. But the crock sticks are at 20 and 25. It's easy enough to change the angle of the crock sticks by putting a pivot underneath or by drilling new holes in the wood though.
That said, if you've got the cash for the sharpmaker, it has nicer stones.
Stretch was talking about the guided clamp system that lansky has, which has slots for 17, 20, 25, and 30. But the crock sticks are at 20 and 25. It's easy enough to change the angle of the crock sticks by putting a pivot underneath or by drilling new holes in the wood though.
That said, if you've got the cash for the sharpmaker, it has nicer stones.
Hi SCM2741,
Yes, the_mac was right. I'm sorry to write that confusing post, I was thinking of the Lansky "guided" system. WHen I bought my "Deluxe" Lansky, there was a higher-graded system available (which I remember now was the Diamond set), and when I read your post I thought that was the "Lansky Professional".
Anyway, I'm certainly no expert sharpener. Any skill I've recently acquired is attributed to those in this sub-forum and elsewhere. HOWEVER, I think that none of the Lansky systems provide a steep enough angle. 17 degrees (or 20 degrees in your Professional model) is too shallow. Even the Sharpmaker should have another setting below their 15 degrees, just for those that might want to use it.
Again, sorry for the confusion
Well, if you were going to market a crock stick system with just 2 angle settings, those might not be that bad a choice. You'd figure a thinner angle (like 15 degrees) would never touch the edge on 75% of the knives in use.
Matt321,
You're probably right there. They've set those angles for maximum coverage of what's out there.
Still though, alot of people like to set the primary bevel down to about 15 to 17 degrees depending on the type of steel and anticipated use, then the secondary bevel at about 17 to 20 degrees. I read that here (in the "Toolshed") and studied up on it some and I like that.
I had to rebevel my RAT3 down because it came from the factory at approximately 25 to 27 degrees and it was just too obtuse. On the other hand, I have a Nimravus that came with 15 degrees on one side and about 17 or 18 on the other. What's up with Benchmade? They're supposed to have some superfragilistic sharpening stuff up there. It did come razor sharp though but I'll have to work the primary bevel down over time (to 15 degrees).