Question on the "after sold"

PSU2001

PSU2001

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I also trade/sell watches on other forums, and for reference for those selling they do not allow a seller to edit the initial posting price after being sold. This is strictly so that future sellers can research sold item prices for a reference. Why doesn't BF do this? Wouldn't this help the overall experience of selling on this site?
 
Wrong section. Mods please move.

This is a recurring discussion here and the rules permit editing sold threads to remove price. Many of us do not. I prefer to see the listed price after the sale. But others don't want it sitting out there. I can live with that or would not be here.

Mike
 
I haven't used the BST side of this forum but I know on other forums members get a little miffed when they see other users selling for what they consider under market value. This can cause a decrease in perceived value of other comparable products. Editing the price out can get rid of the problem, especially if someone just wants to get some quick cash. I'm sure we've all be there once or twice.
 
PSU, my standardized answer when these threads pop up is this: no offense, but it's not a seller's job to help future sellers valuate their merchandise. There are any number of reasons why people edit out their prices after the item sells, and all of them are...well, none of your business, really.
 
I can usually find the used value of a knife by checking out prices on new ones. Works for me.
 
It's because we're all paranoid conspiracy theorists wanting to cover our tracks as we go.
 
I'm pretty sure the number one reason sellers edit out the price is because that's what other sellers are doing. But I've argued about this before here, and no good came of it.
 
brancron said:
I'm pretty sure the number one reason sellers edit out the price is because that's what other sellers are doing. But I've argued about this before here, and no good came of it.
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And as it was explained to you, that is in an incorrect assumption on your part. The thing for you to take away from this is this: Bladeforums' sellers have paid for the right to sell in whichever manner they see fit (as long as it remains within the regulations for Bladeforums.com). Your (or other future sellers') concerns are not their concerns. It is not past sellers' job to make it easy for future sellers to valuate knives they want to sell.

Please keep that in mind. It was clearly and politely explained to you that there are multiple reasons why people remove their prices, none of which is "because that's what other sellers are doing."
 
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Quiet said:
The thing for you to take away from this is this: Bladeforums' sellers have paid for the right to sell in whichever manner they see fit. Your (or other future sellers') concerns are not their concerns. It is not past sellers' job to make it easy for future sellers to valuate knives they want to sell.
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This has been repeated to me ad nauseum, as if I didn't already agree from the very beginning that it's the seller's right to do whatever he wants. And I'm still going to disagree with the practice, for the reasons I've stated many times.
 
brancron said:
This has been repeated to me ad nauseum, as if I didn't already agree from the very beginning that it's the seller's right to do whatever he wants. And I'm still going to disagree with the practice, for the reasons I've stated many times.
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As is certainly your right, however, please don't come into threads like this and make statements like "I'm pretty sure the number one reason sellers edit out the price is because that's what other sellers are doing." because that is a false assumption.
 
Quiet said:
As is certainly your right, however, please don't come into threads like this and make statements like "I'm pretty sure the number one reason sellers edit out the price is because that's what other sellers are doing." because that is false.
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How can you possibly say that it's false? It's my opinion, based on (1) looking at the reasons given for redacting price information, and (2) finding that, in my estimation, they're not compelling, at least in the majority of situations. So my explanation for lots of people doing something without, in my opinion, a good reason (generally speaking), is that it has just become a thing that people do simply because others are doing it.
 
brancron said:
How can you possibly say that it's false? It's my opinion, based on (1) looking at the reasons given for redacting price information, and (2) finding that, in my estimation, they're not compelling, at least in the majority of situations. So my explanation for lots of people doing something without, in my opinion, a good reason (generally speaking), is that it has just become a thing that people do simply because others are doing it.
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It's false, because a great number of sellers do it for reasons that were made clear to you in that thread that was locked, that you personally don't agree with. Well, the fact is: facts don't require your agreement in order to be facts. You are attempting to paint every sellers' intention with a broad brush viewpoint that matches your own opinion because you do not respect, or appreciate the sellers' right to do as they please with their sale. So, "generally speaking" you keep pushing a false statement, which you are stating in an objective way instead of what it really is: your subjective opinion.

That said, I've said all there is to say on this subject, so I won't be returning to this thread. Good day.
 
Sonnydaze said:
I can usually find the used value of a knife by checking out prices on new ones. Works for me.
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Works for me too.

I do like to see prices left on for rarer items and things ive never seen before. No big deal either way.
 
I really have mixed feelings. I've removed my prices at times and left it in at others. If anyone wants to know, I would let them know. Mah.
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You are attempting to paint every sellers' intention with a broad brush viewpoint that matches your own opinion....
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I'll go ahead and accuse you of doing exactly the same thing. You've come up with a bunch of reasons why sellers redact, and then claim that all the sellers are in fact doing so for those stated reasons. My response is: (1) you don't know that the sellers are doing it for those stated reasons; and (2) those "reasons" are in fact unreasonable (most of the time).
 
Why is this still a discussion??


No one is forced by the forum to conveniece future sellers, and I doubt that will change any time soon.

I redact prices because I don't want any confusion surrounding the state of the item. Putting *SOLD* in place of the price lets everyone know that the item is already spoken for. And that's important when you're getting a barrage of emails and PMs about a knife because you've priced it quite generously. I also believe the buyers appreciate the closure.


But that's just MY reason for doing it. And there's no reason for anyone to tell me I'm wrong. I don't give a crap if you think that my choice is "unreasonable".
 
Sellers do it to protect the re-seller. Often knives are bought and sold more than once on this forum. Protecting the buyer if they become a future seller is a good sales practice.

Sellers do it to protect their reputation. If they low balled something to sell quick or had a hard sell and dropped the price, they do not want future buyers to judge the current sale by the past performance...like stocks :)

Sellers do it so their spouse does not know what they got for a knife.

When was the last time someone told the truth about what they paid for or sold for a car, a house, etc.? Some people have an aversion to letting others know their business especially when it comes to money. It does not need to be logical to you. Humans are twisted in different ways.


Need any more possible random reasons?

Just because a value is posted for sale and the item is sold does not mean it was sold for the posted price. Why not go back and update the thread as sold with a higher price...just for fun :)
 
Also think about it this way. Non paid members such as my self cant ask for valuations without a paid membership. So why leave that info out for me to find? I personally dont like leaving values up. Do you know how many times i have been asked "why are you asking xxxx amount of money for the knife you are selling when in 2007 someone sold one for less than that?" Value cant be determined by a single sale yet many buyers want to point to the lowest known number ever as the standard. And in many situations where something has been sold at a lower price than they could have got it was a decision made by the seller to accept less than that items true worth in the interest of moving it quickly. And i dont think its anyones business but those involved in the transaction. I dont tell people how much i make, how i vote or what i paid for things. Sure its a public forum. But it requires membership to sell and after an ill take i feel that sale becomes a private matter. Also people forget that the price we see in a thread doesnt mean that is what it sold for. It was simply the asking price. And people can ask whatever they want regardless of the true value. Of course i am speaking from previous experience on all forums not this one.
 
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