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Please check out the thread there accusing Mr Hood of falsely claiming to be 1)a doctor and 2)Special Forces.
If the accusations are not true, let's clear his name.
If they are true......perhaps it should be made known.
Anyone have any info?

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Dave (Phil.4:13)
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[This message has been edited by lifter4Him@aol.com (edited 09-01-2000).]
 
I just spent quite a bit of time reading about this, and the only conclusion I can come to is..... If this is true, it is very sad!!! If it is not true, it is very sad!!! Hope that makes sense....
 
Don't know the details at all, BUT, if this happened to me, I would simply supply documentation to prove up. The best defense to defamation is the TRUTH!

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I'm pretty sure that most information contained within a Military Service Record is a matter of Public Record and as such can be supplied or requested by the general public. But as has been stated, if this were me I wouldn't wait to have someone else request the documentation. Important Docs like the ones in questions, I would think that most people keep copies readily accessible, I know I do.

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Clearly you have been confronted by my own private cyber-terrorist. Contrary to the lies he has spread, the modifications he made to copies of my website material and his passionate hatred for me, I don't claim to be Ex Special Forces. The information you need is on my web site under "about us". I was in the Army Security Agency (ASA) which was a Special Warfare unit. Sadly this has been purposefully misconstrued to paint me as having claimed to have been in SF. ASA is an intelligence unit and supported many different units in the course of our operations.... including Special Forces.

FYI, Until "fat Mike" I never made an issue of my military training except in passing. He started out by claiming that I was never in Vietnam. He had to retreat from that position when he was presented with clear official evidence of a portion of my service in Vietnam (16 months worth out of my 4 year enlistment). He is also aware that I worked in classified missions and since he does not understand what that involves, tries to use it to mitigate my service to my country. He has stated openly that it is his mission to destroy me and my business. He even says that he is trying to find photos of my wife posing topless at the SOF convention! He is a real looney.

If I had the inclination I could read you chapter and verse of Fat Mikes highly questionable background and his nearly psychotic drive to damage successful veterans by manufacturing whatever evidence he feels he needs to support his arguments. His style is to ignore or belittle the evidence that is contrary to his stated opinion . If I were to attempt to refute his claims I would be adding value to his ignorant ranting and I would merely be stooping to his level. He has no life and I have become it. I will post no more on this topic. To do so will feed his fires and lock down this forum in a debate that is meaningless. It is up to the members and moderators to either condone or reject this topic.

Mike and his companions are supporters of vigilantism and cyber terrorism. In the America I served, the rule of law still serves us well. Fat Mike is a coward who has placed himself outside those laws. He is an ex-American living in the Philippines and from that place, mounts his sniveling attacks. I pity him and those who believe him.

Ron


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Thanks for responding Ron. As for me this matter is over. I have received some private emails with some explanations and also did not realize how long this has been going on.

It is very easy to follow the links from Fat Mike's website and read about some real phonies on the fake SEAL website who have lied for financial and personal gain. It is very easy to get caught up in trying to expose these lowlifes.

It is also obvious to me now that Doc Ron is not one of them.




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Dave (Phil.4:13)
I Can Do All Things Through Him Who Strengthens Me
 
I hope that this person who ever they maybe will have their ass banned from the forums. How about it Mike and Spark? Can we do something about this character?

Regards,

Tom Carey
 
Tom,
I hope you are referring to Fat Mike and not to me for asking this qustion.

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Dave (Phil.4:13)
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Was fat mike one time called "ghillie sack" or something like that? Before that person got banned from here?

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Lifter,
Pretty sure he meant the troll "fat mike" and I agree...while censorship is another whole debate, seems his ONLY reason for joining the forums was what we see above and in "Wilderness". Obviously not my call, but I don't think this community needs Mike or his type. Doc, thanks for the concise rebuttal (being slandered is never fun).
 
The thing about the internet...is that you can write anything and put it on a web page. And the trouble with the internet...is that you can write anything and put it on a web page.

I would give Fat Mike's post the kind of consideration it deserves--none. Chasing down internet rumors is a waste of time 'cause anyone can start them. The problem is that because we see them presented in a somewhat "formal" way, some will tend to believe them. The ONLY approach to take to internet rumors is to be skeptical. Unless you have corroboration from some other source besides someone's homemade webpage, just blow it off 'cause if you believe 1/1000 of the crap that gets published on the internet, you are as gullible as they come. I repeat: anyone can create a webpage and write the words. Lies are "published" on the internet everyday--and people tend to believe them 'cause they are "out there." Again: BE SKEPTICAL. The internet can suck you in to its many lies and propaganda campaigns because it's the nature of the beast. It has the look and feel of "media" but the content can vary from toilet room graffiti to peer reviewed science. The only way to approach information "published" on the internet is TO BE SKEPTICAL. But I repeat myself.
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The internet can function to spread lies like wildfire. And then everyone gets their knickers in a knot because some a$$hole put up a webpage making a bunch of unsubstantiated claims. And say what you want about lawyers, but IMHO, internet liars should be sued into oblivion.

BTW, does FAT MIKE make ghillie suits? (how's that for a rumor?)
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The Merchant of Venice, Act IV. Scene I.
 
Everyone is responsible for their own reputation. Ron Hood's is impeccable.

Jim
 
I'm a newbie here. I checked out the links to see what was up.

I'll let the Army guys argue about Army assignments from thirty years ago.

But until the PhD is *finished* I find the use of "Ed. D." (I assume this means Doctorate in Education) after a name to be improper, likewise the title of "Dr." before a name. I suspect researching, writing, and defending a PhD thesis is a difficult thing, one of the reasons so many graduate students do not finish.
 
Originally posted by amalgam:
But until the PhD is *finished* I find the use of "Ed. D." (I assume this means Doctorate in Education) after a name to be improper, likewise the title of "Dr." before a name. I suspect researching, writing, and defending a PhD thesis is a difficult thing, one of the reasons so many graduate students do not finish.

My personal opinion is that it's irrelevant. If Ron was applying for a position at a university and misrepresented his intellectual credentials, that would be different. But lot's of people run around with the handle Doc or Dr. Back in my mechanic days, we called one of the guys I worked with Doc because of his meticulous work with Detroit Diesels.

One of the labs I worked in, we routinely called one of the technicians Dr. because of the years of research he helped with and his highest degree was a high school diploma.

But in my opinion, due to his vast experience, Ron has earned his Dr. handle, "honorary" though it may be. And I doubt Pepperdine was teaching him his wilderness survival skills. You get those from the school of hard knocks and you learn them by being there and I don't think anyone is disputing that Ron doesn't know his "stuff". If there was a doctorate for wilderness survival, Ron would have graduated in the top of the class.

Of course, if Ron really would have completed his doctorate, I'm sure he'd have come to his senses and abandoned his defense of the tanto point.
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I refer you to the case of "Dr." John R. Horner, a man who also never finished his Ph.D. (due to dyslexia) yet no one disputes that he is a powerful intellectual who has had a major impact on the field of paleontology (ultimately, because of his considerable academic achievements, he received an honorary doctorate from the U. Montana).

Dr. Hoodoo, B.S. (bull$hit) and Ph.D. (piled higher and deeper)
 
Originally posted by Jim March:
Everyone is responsible for their own reputation. Ron Hood's is impeccable.

Jim

I know that I should learn to just keep my mouth shut, but this has been bugging me for awhile. I can't speak to the specifics of Ron's military career and even though it sounds as if some of it might be embellished (at least as far as dates) that is not terribly uncommon and I still respect him for his service. And while I never spent any time in the military I have spent some in graduate school and Ron knows as well as I do that if you haven't completed your dissertation you have not earned your Ph.D and you are not deserving of being called Doctor. If you were to claim so in a resume that resulted in procuring a professional position you would likely be subject to charges of fraud.

By all accounts Ron is an excellent wilderness instructor and obviously has lots of good friends, but this falls somewhat short of impeccable for me.

Jack

 
I would invite anyone who has any questions about this to go over to Ron Hoods site and check out his profile there and foloow the links to his Forum, called Hoodlums. There, with some research you will find a good number of posts about these issues.

One of the things you will find is that Ron esplains his use of "Doc". He explains that it developed as a nickname.

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Banning only lasts a little while. Looks like GUNNER is back even though he was supposedly banned.
 
David and Hoodooo,

It's not my intention to belabor this point and I won't speak of it again, but there is a difference in what we are talking about. I'm not opposed to anyone having the nickname "Doc", honorary or otherwise. However, Ron claimed on his webpage to have earned a Ph.D. when he has not. That is entirely another matter. It may bother you or it may not. That is entirely up to you.

Jack
 
This guy is out there working for a living, and from some of the people here who know him, seems to be doing a pretty good job of it.

I don't know what Ron Hood "claimed" on his web page in the past. Right now it looks like this:
http://www.survival.com/aboutus.htm

//"Doc" Ron Hood Ed.D. (abd)
[followed by his picture]

Ron has a Master of Science degree from California State University, Northridge and is short his graduation for his Doctorate in Management from Pepperdine University. He says he has better things to do.//

His accuser's intemperate tone doesn't impress me with truth of the charges. I spent some military time up the road from where Ron was stationed in Turkey. It is very easy for people who never dealt with that kind of work to misunderstand it. But we all should realize that slander on the internet is a cheap and easy thrill.
 
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All but the dissertation.
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Serious stuff here. Serious stuff.

Guys, I don't hang out at Ron's forum and I suspect Ron and I share somewhat different views on many things, but I also suspect he is far more interesting than many of my colleagues and probably more broadly educated. So I will not lose one iota of sleep worrying about Ron's academic credentials. Or his military credentials. He's got a great thing going with what he does and I respect it and I wish him continued success. This is truly a tempest in a teapot.

And I can tell you straight up, I know a helluva lot of guys that never finished their dissertations, not because they lacked the intellectual skills, but because the system chewed them up. If you have ever been at the absolute mercy of your advisor for 6 years, you would then know what I'm talking about and I had one of the absolute worst. And that was the survival struggle of my life. Believe me. I've seen some wonderful minds fall beneath the wheels of academia when they shouldn't have. And often it's just the luck of the draw. If you are really lucky, you will get a good advisor and if you have some talent, grad school will go well. But if you draw a totally useless advisor like I did, then you better be determined and have impeccable research and a lot of luck. So before you start howling, be sure you know what you are barking at. And most people haven't a clue what goes on at the level of the advanced degree. It varies tremendously, depending on the situation. Serendipity can play a major role in determining whether you have those little letters after your name or not. That's why I don't get too excited, especially since Ron has been up front about this. What more can we ask????



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Hoodoo

Why dost thou whet thy knife so earnestly?

The Merchant of Venice, Act IV. Scene I.
 
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