Question regarding the Shanghai Worrier dagger

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halbschaf

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Hello everybody
I've just seen that cs has produced a bigger shanghai shadow, the Shanghai Worrier. Unfortunately I cannot find any information about this dagger. Has anyone here experience in this knife?
Would be great to hear somewhat.
Thanks in advance
 
And just where did you see the Shanghai Worrier? There is the Shanghai Shadow and the Shanghai Warrior. I would real worry about ordering a Shanghai Worrier .. does not exist.
 
The Shanghai Warriors are not available yet, but are a scaled up version of the Shadow, with a 9.75" blade made of SK-5 carbon steel.
 
Yes, there's quite a difference between a worrier and a warrior. :D I'm guessing English is not your native language, halbschaf (German perhaps?), so I'm just having a little fun with you. No offense intended. :thumbup: I recently picked up a Shanghai Warrior, so if you have a specific question about it, maybe I can answer it. I can tell you it is definitely a lot larger than the Shadow and feels heavier in the hand. It's also a tiny bit thicker (5mm vs. 4mm). It feels well balanced, and it shares the Shadow's geometry, meaning a very deep hollow grind that gives the blade paper thin edges that feel like they'll slice really well. I honestly haven't used the knife so far for actual cutting, since it's not the most utilitarian design out there. I bought mine mainly for fun, since I'm a sucker for daggers. I suppose it would serve well in a hiking/camping/hunting situation as a last-ditch weapon, but you'd need to modify the sheath, or make one, to eliminate the floppy belt hanger and slow-to-access retainer strap. You'd want something that mounts rigidly to your belt and retains the blade by friction, so you could just grab the handle and pull it out.

edit: Looking more closely at the two side by side, I believe I was wrong about the grind. The Shadow has a deep hollow grind, but the Warrior appears more flat ground and feels thicker at the edges. I haven't had it very long, and this was the first time I really compared the two in this manner. Directly comparing them, the Warrior's blade feels beefier and more substantial. :thumbup:

Warrior on right, still with factory oil on it. :D

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Mike Sastre said:
The Shanghai Warriors are not available yet, but are a scaled up version of the Shadow, with a 9.75" blade made of SK-5 carbon steel.
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Shanghai Warriors are available, I've had mine for over 3 months now, from Knifecenter, BladeHQ had 'em too, last I checked.
 
I was thinking about purchasing one of these when they become available:$40. I decided to buy a Smatchet instead:$24. They are not exactly alike, but close enough for me.
 
The worrier is a new model that is soon to be released, word has it that it can't be removed from the sheath.
 
Thanks a lot for all the informations. Yes, I am a German, and of course I mean warrior; worrier was a funny mistake - sorry.
Seems indeed similar to a smatchet. Maybe a video will be available soon.
Thanks again and best regards.
 
By the way, sk5 seems to be a better steel than the 1055, which is used for the Shanghai shadow, isn't it?
 
SK5 is supposed to be equivalent to 1080, so it can reach higher hardness than 1055. I don't know how CS is heat treating them, though. If they're still being made at the same hardness as the 1055 Shadow, then there should be no discernible difference.
 
What as well would be interesting to me is the answer, which width the blade has. I indeed think about of taking it with me when hiking in Alaska, where I 'll be alone without any shooting weapons. I also consider to use it as a pig sticker.
 
I treat my knives gently as a rule so although I've had the Warrior for a while, I don't know how tough it is. I think it looks very cool though and much more like a Smatchet than CS's so-called Smatchet machete. It makes a great companion for my Shanghai Shadow which I've had for years. The Warrior is the only 2015 CS knife I've bought so far as it's reasonably priced unlike most of CS's other 2015 models which have jacked up prices because of the new steel. [ you'll never see me refer to the new steel as "better", it's just more expensive]
 
Hey there halbschaf! I grew up in Alaska and spent some good time outdoors. There is pretty much no animal that is going to be a problem that you can take down with a knife, except for the occasional two-leg jerk. A knife like the Warrior would be great if you run into Devil's Club or scrub, and unless you are on established trails or close to town you are gonna hit some. Something with some length and low weight is nice, like a small machete, so the Warrior is worth a try. But get some bear bells to make some noise, and a big can of bear mace at the sporting goods store. My preferred bear/moose repellent is in .30 caliber, though that can add 10 lbs of kit. A can of bear mace reaches out 20 feet easy, weighs around 1 pound, and will usually make large animals run away.
 
BitingSarcasm said:
Hey there halbschaf! I grew up in Alaska and spent some good time outdoors. There is pretty much no animal that is going to be a problem that you can take down with a knife, except for the occasional two-leg jerk. A knife like the Warrior would be great if you run into Devil's Club or scrub, and unless you are on established trails or close to town you are gonna hit some. Something with some length and low weight is nice, like a small machete, so the Warrior is worth a try. But get some bear bells to make some noise, al2nd a big can of bear mace at the sporting goods store. My preferred bear/moose repellent is in .30 caliber, though that can add 10 lbs of kit. A can of bear mace reaches out 20 feet easy, weighs around 1 pound, and will usually make large animals run away.
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You lucky guy, growing up in Alaska ☺
I went on trails near Seward, Homer, Knick River, Hatcher Pass, Talkeetna and some more - but without a gun I don't feel very well. So I carry a good knife anyhow, but I think a second one can be a good idea. The Shanghai Warriors seems as If one can use it to make a spear in addition. I only have my doubts that the blade may be too broad for penetration, the length seems to be adequate. What's your opinion?
 
halbschaf said:
What as well would be interesting to me is the answer, which width the blade has. I indeed think about of taking it with me when hiking in Alaska, where I 'll be alone without any shooting weapons. I also consider to use it as a pig sticker.
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The widest part (at middle of blade) is 5.5cm.
 
G. Scott H. said:
The widest part (at middle of blade) is 5.5cm.
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Thanks; that's pretty much. In survival situations, it can be critical to stab with such a wide blade successfully, I suppose. Actually I have been looking for a knife like the cs warhead, but production had stopped some time ago. So I found the Warrior, and I cannot find a similar dagger anywhere. The best would be somewhat in between.
 
The old Native hunters who took bear with spears are long gone, but they did get interviewed by curious white folk. Apparently the most important thing was a solid shaft of shade-grown, fire hardened birch, wrist-thick, that the bear couldn't break with a paw swipe. The next most important thing was a solid crossguard, and the killing lance was carved of tusk or bone. The technique apparently was to dig a little hole, couch the spear, and goad the bear into charging. The bear gets impaled, can't advance on the hunter, and can't break the shaft. The terrified hunter would be crouching at the base, securing the spear and enlarging the wound channel. I saw a really old picture of one Gold Rush era hunter, and he was five foot nothing and his spear was under six feet, though it looked more like a weaponized tree than my idea of "spear." I think the Warrior knife would have been greatly appreciated by those guys, the wound channel would have been devastating. But a dismounted CS boar spear head would fit in your luggage and could act as a big slicer knife in a pinch, much like the hollow-handled CS bushman knives. It would be fairly easy to put it on a staff from a martial arts store, or just whack an innocent tree out in the bush. Once the end is shaped, the head could be carried on a belt and remounted solidly enough for a thrust in a few seconds. The Warrior is going to take 10 minutes of paracord knotting to be secure. Either way, this would be a great time to be hiking in Alaska. Cold enough to keep mosquitoes down, not too cold to be outside, and the bears are fat and thinking of sleep.
 
So, I just have ordered the Warrior, although it's twice as expensive here in Germany. Thanks for all your helpful informations. After I will have received the knife, I'll let you know my impression.
Best regards
Holger
 
halbschaf said:
So, I just have ordered the Warrior, although it's twice as expensive here in Germany. Thanks for all your helpful informations. After I will have received the knife, I'll let you know my impression.
Best regards
Holger
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No, three times as expensive 😥
 
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