Questions about 1980s Yellow Buck Slipjoints (301,303,305,309)

we really should agree on a picture format and then take pictures of our collections and form them into a catalog. Or, in absence of that (or in addition to that), submit a list of our collections with all the relevant attributes. (i.e., manufacturer, part number, bolster type, tang stamps, blade deviations, shields, # of backsprings, # of spacers, # of visible rivets, configuration of swedge, nick type, color, handle material, production/prototype, salesman sample, SFO requester, date stamp, etc.). I have about 160 of the US-made 300 series in my collection but I'm sure others have much more. And collectively, we may cover the majority of what exists. Would really like to see everything. Larry Oden's book has good info, as well as the BCCI newsletters, Buck catalogs and the posts here. But it's not all in the same place. Too bad there isn't some web-based database (like Numista for coins) where the stuff could just be entered on-line.
 
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MT_Pokt said:
There are grey "Workman" 303s as well. I have 1 with the "BUCK " shield and one with the KBH. There was also a black "Workman". The pad prints vary as well.

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I have gray work-mans (bothers me that Buck puts a hyphen in there) that have the BUCK shield, the KBH shield, and a gray sawcut one that doesn't have a Work-Man stamp.
 
dsutton24 said:
We can't even agree that shields shouldn't be called escutcheons. How are we going to coordinate that?
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Maybe we should make a list of correct and incorrect terminology. It seems there are quite a few on the forum who don't know the difference between laminated wood and plywood. I'll bet some discussions could lead to intervention by the moderator.

Bert
 
Happy Hippo said:
I have gray work-mans (bothers me that Buck puts a hyphen in there) that have the BUCK shield, the KBH shield, and a gray sawcut one that doesn't have a Work-Man stamp.
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I believe one of the ones in the bottom right corner of my display is a gray saw cut without the Workman pad print. It was never offered in gray without the pad print so it doesn't make the wall.

To answer your earlier question, yes... those are all USA 303 Cadets.

Your suggestion about a catalog of sorts is what the BCCI should be doing. It's a rope I've pushed for years to the point I cancelled my membership. I don't know what they spend member dues on, but it's definitely not being spent on the Club's most valuable asset.

I pretty much stopped seeking 303s out - satisfied that my collection was complete to my aspiration (1 of every production model) except for the Painted Pony. I pretty much lost interest in Buck Knives and knife collecting in general since as well. I won't pass something up I like, but I don't actively hunt them down like I used to or feel like I need one. BCCI pretty much spoiled my taste for 'em.
 
dsutton24 said:
We can't even agree that shields shouldn't be called escutcheons. How are we going to coordinate that?
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Then maybe pick a name that no one is happy with, like emblem or badge, for example. But I don't think they are escutcheons because I consider those to be "plates." A lot of the "shields" on these knives are cast as part of the frame. But your point is well taken, how many hours would be needed to discuss this before it was agreed to? But I think the parlance for this topic in the literature is "shield."
 
MT_Pokt said:
I believe one of the ones in the bottom right corner of my display is a gray saw cut without the Workman pad print. It was never offered in gray without the pad print so it doesn't make the wall.

To answer your earlier question, yes... those are all USA 303 Cadets.

Your suggestion about a catalog of sorts is what the BCCI should be doing. It's a rope I've pushed for years to the point I cancelled my membership. I don't know what they spend member dues on, but it's definitely not being spent on the Club's most valuable asset.

I pretty much stopped seeking 303s out - satisfied that my collection was complete to my aspiration (1 of every production model) except for the Painted Pony. I pretty much lost interest in Buck Knives and knife collecting in general since as well. I won't pass something up I like, but I don't actively hunt them down like I used to or feel like I need one. BCCI pretty much spoiled my taste for 'em.
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I actually have a painted pony but, to be honest, I find it a little gaudy. What is your definition of "production"? I'm sorry to hear you are disillusioned with BCCI. But, just having those newsletters and catalogs is more than the Case XX collectors club has.
 
bertl said:
Maybe we should make a list of correct and incorrect terminology. It seems there are quite a few on the forum who don't know the difference between laminated wood and plywood. I'll bet some discussions could lead to intervention by the moderator.

Bert
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I thought plywood was a type of laminated wood, since it is made in layers. But now having looked it up, I see it depends on how the layers are applied (perpendicular vs parallel) which denotes the difference between plywood and laminated wood. Good one. Learned something.
 
Happy Hippo said:
I thought plywood was a type of laminated wood, since it is made in layers.
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Plywood is a type of laminated wood, but not all laminated wood is plywood. Another that could be added to the list would be wood grain versus wood figure.
 
Happy Hippo said:
I actually have a painted pony but, to be honest, I find it a little gaudy. What is your definition of "production"? I'm sorry to hear you are disillusioned with BCCI. But, just having those newsletters and catalogs is more than the Case XX collectors club has.
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I defined it originaly as "found in a catalog". Then expanded it for (my purpose) to include anything with an official item number. I've passed some great 303s along that didn't fit my collection because they either didn't accurately fit the catalog description or expectation, or were aftermarket modifications.

The Painted Pony is way too "rhinestone cowboy" for me. Nothing against Michael Prater, he does amazing work and is a fantastic artist! That one was just so overdone it was more jewelry than knife.
 
Wow. There is something called KnifeDB online. Which is essentially a collector's resource for CaseXX knives. That would be so cool if it could be done for BUCK slipjoints. Check it out. There are even mini-catalog options, where you could see all the Halloween knives, for example.
 
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