Quick impressions of Kershaw JYD

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Not my intention to be aggressive ehhh sorry bout that. Just got my eyebrow raised with the choice of some of your words
Understandable. I think it's great that you take such pride in your company's products.

Sorry I didn't pick those words to bash the product, but because it's just what it reminds me of and I felt it could be a helpful descriptor so people know what I mean.

Anyhow, no hard feelings. I'm not trying to say you're wrong either, because I see no wrong here at all. It's just my opinion, and you have your opinion and that's fine. It's a great knife and it may replace my Leek as my go to knife.
 
It's strange to me hearing things like "soft grinds", or uneven edges or such complaints. In my experience Kai/Kershaw has been probably the most consistant, and with closest tolerance brands of knife this side of a sebenza I've ever seen. I've yet to find one out of the box that wouldn't shave hair. Throw in the best IMO stable of custom knife makers designing the knives, the exotic sprint runs, and though I've never had to use it, a well thought of warranty department and you find you are looking at a company at the top of the heap. Kershaw has had innovation after innovation especially when you include the other Kai brands Shun and Zero Tolerance. I can go on but what for? If you and your knife don't see eye to eye talk to W&R or sell it. Plenty of us watch the boards daily for this brand. Good luck, Joe
 
It's strange to me hearing things like "soft grinds", or uneven edges or such complaints. In my experience Kai/Kershaw has been probably the most consistant, and with closest tolerance brands of knife this side of a sebenza I've ever seen. I've yet to find one out of the box that wouldn't shave hair. Throw in the best IMO stable of custom knife makers designing the knives, the exotic sprint runs, and though I've never had to use it, a well thought of warranty department and you find you are looking at a company at the top of the heap. Kershaw has had innovation after innovation especially when you include the other Kai brands Shun and Zero Tolerance. I can go on but what for? If you and your knife don't see eye to eye talk to W&R or sell it. Plenty of us watch the boards daily for this brand. Good luck, Joe
I never said I didn't like the knife. In fact I like it quite a bit as a worker. I don't see why it's so strange to see a couple of complaints in an honest review either. If people only posted perfect reviews, what would be the point?
If you want to see the edge, I'll go ahead and post some pics if I can get it to focus right.
And again, I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about the grind being soft. It's probably because the beadblast softens them a bit, and it's only aesthetic as I've mentioned. Not really a big deal to me, which I have also mentioned. Someone else even agreed with me, so you may want to question him as well.
I didn't say anything about the edge being dull either. You might want to try reading my short review again.
 
I am impressed with the edges I have seen on my recent Kershaw knives! The small ENG2 and the Needs Works are very good edges. Also, I think the 13c26 steel is am improvement over 440a. I would like to see the edges thinner as I like a thin edge but I understand that a company must make an edge for all different applications. I think thin is what cuts best but if you are going to cut things like wire and other hard items you need a thicker and more durable edge. And I think Kershaw has the liner lock down.
RKH
 
Hey, I know I'm a bit late for this party, but I just got back into town after being in the mountains for a few days without a computer and saw this thread.

I really feel like I need to add. I have more than a dozen different Leeks in my collection, four different Bumps, a Cyclone, an E.T., a couple chives, a Centofante/Onion, and even a couple older Vapor II's. If I'm certain about just one thing, it's that ALL of these knives came with beautiful edges out of the box and have performed EXTREMELY well for me over the years.

Sometimes, YES, the customer is wrong.

Thanks to Kershaw and Thomas for incredibly consistent edges, time and time again. And BTW, I have also purchased upwards of thirty Leeks from an online dealer I know to pass along to computer-illiterate customers of mine who saw my Leek and wanted one of their own, and I have yet to recieve a single complaint about Kershaws grinds.

Cheers,
Jon
 
I suppose I am just lying then? The edge is ground off and it was pleasantly sharp out of the box. Yours may be perfectly even, but mine isn't. Should I pretend everything is perfect? Well, I'm not going to. That's why people review things.
Unfortunately it is very hard to get a picture of. If I can manage it, I'll put it up here and you can proceed to tell me how perfect this $40 knife is.

I think the fanboys should calm down a little. No knife is perfect, and I don't expect any knife at this price to be perfect. Does it mean it's bad? No. I don't see what the big deal is here. Hell, the review was more positive than negative.

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Here's the best pic I could take, as it is extremely difficult to focus on something so close to the camera.

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As you can see, the edge is a bit off center and I've marked where the edge ends, and where the bevels on each side end.
Is it so bad that it's a chisel grind? No.
Is it so bad that it doesn't cut? No, it cuts very well.
Is it a nuisance because I have to adjust the angle on my Sharpmaker in order to get the edge on one side? Yes.
Is it a big deal? No, I'll just reprofile it.

And now to wait for the "Photoshopped!" accusations. ;)
 
Sooner or later, everyone will chime in with "If the edge grinds are uneven, or there is something wrong with the knife, send it in to Kershaw, they won't hesitate to take care of it", so I may as well be the first.

If the edge grinds are uneven, or there is something wrong with the knife, send it in to Kershaw, they won't hesitate to take care of it. :D

Having said that, I understand that you are comfortable with re-profiling it yourself, but if you do feel that it is an issue with the grind from the factory, then that is exactly the sort of thing that Kershaw wants to know about and you should send it in. (I'm almost surprised that Tim hasn't already turned up to say the same thing.)
 
Soft grinds? The only difference I see between the "soft grind" ones and the others you posted was that the others had a wider edge bevel. Is that what you mean, or am I missing it?
 
To comment on a few of your generalities about Kershaw Knives, Kai USA, first I am puzzled by the "soft grinds" comments. This is the first time I have heard anyone complain about our grinds, and would love to hear more about our USA made knives resembling that of cheap imports.

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I'm not sure if it is the same thing or not, but I believe that Cliff Stamp told you a long time ago that Kershaw was under hardening steel. Again, I have a Leek. It's a great design but the steel does seem soft. Like I say, I'm not sure that Cliff was speaking of the same soft grind or soft steel, but would guess he was.

PS, I would advise you that you need to take that peckerhead off your avatar. Too many people associate a person with an avatar. That guy is a kid abuser.
 
I don't see why it's so strange to see a couple of complaints in an honest review either. If people only posted perfect reviews, what would be the point?

:thumbup: The responses you are getting to an honest, objective review are very surprising and uncalled for.
 
Ehhh, the picture sure does show a bend there. A picture is worth a thousand words. I'd get a hold of W&R for that one. They'll make good. You can count on them.

Silverhead, Ehhh is making a comment about a problem in a positive way and has what is/ seems like a W&R case. You are just being provocative for no real reason. Thomas has done a lot for a lot of us on this forum. Taking random potshots at him for no reason I can see isn't a real good way to gain popularity and make friends.Also note he is a mod.

Beefing about sigs and avatars is kind of childish in fact. Lets talk about knives. Joe
 
Got a small Kershaw JYD yesterday and did a quick test of it on a small cardboard box.

I bought it lightly used, and touched up the edge on my Sharpmaker real quick. I must say the 13C26 steel is real easy to sharpen and it gets very sharp. It's very similar to my Leek in 440A in that regard, though I'll give 13C26 the nod in sharpness. One thing I'm not a fan of and have seen on all 3 Kershaws I've handled (Leek, ZDP Leek, JYD) is a poorly done edge. Whoever sharpens the knives seems to match the size of the bevel on both sides so it looks nice. But when I looked down the edge of my Kershaws, they all have very uneven edges with one side less than 20 degrees and the other side more than 20 degrees. It still cuts fine, but it's kind of a pain to sharpen on the Sharpmaker. I guess I'll just have to reprofile it.

The overall fit and finish is very good, though I find that a lot of the cheaper Kershaws have rather soft grinds that are reminiscent of Chinese and Taiwanese imports. I wish the grinds looked nicer, but that would probably raise the price. And regardless of the looks, Kershaw makes great users.

Anyhow, back to my short test drive: I cut up a small USPS box with both the Leek and the JYD and I'd give the Leek the nod when it comes to light cutting like that. The JYD is a slightly stouter knife with a stronger looking blade. The blade is about 1/8" thick (.121"), which is beefier than most 3" folders I've handled, and the scales are about 3/32" thick (.090). The cutout for the framelock is a little thinner than I'd like (.030"), but for such a small knife it shouldn't matter much. It cuts very well thanks to its high flat grind and good belly.

Opening it takes a little wrist flick, unless you loosen the pivot to the point of having the blade rattle without the lockbar touching it.
The handle is rather short feeling, even for a small folder. I can get a normal grip on my other 3 inchers, but the flipper takes up a lot of room so I need to cram my fingers on the handle or use a 3 finger grip. I have somewhat smaller hands, so this may be a problem for those with larger hands. The handle shape is nice though, and it feels very secure.

All in all, the steel performs similarly to 440A so far, and it's a fine knife for the price. I wish they wouldn't put those silly graphics on the handle though...I think that really detracts from it. I'll post up a more in depth review after I've used it longer.

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Thanks for the honest review! I have a JYD and agree with the "soft grinds" (caused by bead blasting). I think it's pretty messed up that some people try to talk down to you for being honest and straightforward. It's nice to have some honesty these days. :thumbup:
 
Ehhh, the picture sure does show a bend there. A picture is worth a thousand words. I'd get a hold of W&R for that one. They'll make good. You can count on them.

Silverhead, Ehhh is making a comment about a problem in a positive way and has what is/ seems like a W&R case. You are just being provocative for no real reason. Thomas has done a lot for a lot of us on this forum. Taking random potshots at him for no reason I can see isn't a real good way to gain popularity and make friends.Also note he is a mod.

Beefing about sigs and avatars is kind of childish in fact. Lets talk about knives. Joe

Mastiff, I don't think it's random to say that sometimes people take your personality to be similar to you avatar when you attack customers for giving reviews. Personally I would remove the avatar, so people wouldn't associate me with a man who strikes student players when pissed and throws chairs across the building when he doesn't get his way. There isn't much difference doing this and saying "Sorry it does't do it it for you", which in my small and unimportant area of the southern US seems nothing but California Smart Ass, leaving unsaid, "if you don't like it go buy something else from us or someone else and while your at it go jump in the lake, because we are right and you are wrong and I'm boss, the best coach or most profitable knifemaker and because I say so and so on." It's the Bobby Knight way. I'm just offereing up advice from a small businessman's perspective to a employee of a large business entity, and don't care if it is right or wrong, because it's just my opinion.

We get an amateur knife lover review, some of us think is honest, and first thing out a Kershaw employee attacks the reviewer with sarcasm, and written assaults on any criticism mild though they are and dismisses it by saying he doesn't like his choice of words. For pete's sake, the reviewer says he likes the knife even.

For the record, I don't know or care who Thomas is, but if I find out he is a principal of Kershaw, well, there are more kind knifemaker owners to purchase from, not that some would care. My most meaningful knife I have, and I have a lot, is the one my then 7 year old took his personal birthday money and bought me, after he saw me looking at a Leek a few months earlier. I will always be a Kershaw owner and am especially careful where I carry this treasured gift. The boy is older now and a Kershaw owner as well.

Again, I don't see someone at Buck or Sal facing up people who offer up their opinions of their knives. I have a pair of glasses that fell apart after one year. they were under warranty. They gave me another pair. After 13 months, the second pair fell apart. The doctors office said, "Well, they are now out of warranty". That's fair enough, but if I were the doctor, I would be concerned that their supplier(Columbia eyewear sucks) had cost me a customer, because of their shabby product. You pay $300 for a pair of glasses, they should last more than a years time. They just walked me to the door thinking I am just a complainer. I'm no complainer. I thought maybe I had done somethingwhen they were under warranty, I could have taken them in earlier. But when they completely started falling apart, I knew it was not me, but the supplier of the dealer I purchased the pair from.

Heck, if I'm going to get made in china crap glasses, I'll be buying my next pair on the cheap at Wal Mart, where they'll back their products up and listen when something is wrong. Same goes for any business. If I find something minor or negligible about a knife I own, I think the knifemaker would be appreciative to know what I found so that it could be reviewed internally and possibly corrected if they think it is a problem.

I'll take AG Russell's comments that Kershaw may be one of the finest knifemakers on the planet. It is a given. I'll also watch a friends national run hunting show's commercials where they are advertised and think they are nice looking knifes. Whether I'll buy another, well, again, I'll just need to decide if Kershaw does care about their customer, me. Right now I think they do, from what I've read.


I'll prolly get a big "you are right and I am double wrong" comment or something. I know I don't know much about knives but I can recognize what some people might consider cheesy graphics(personal opinion is that it is cool looking) and a crooked blade and even soft steel. Again, watch how Sal Glesser treats a man that many people do not like, Cliff Stamp. His genius is not to argue and tell him he is a bafoon, like a ton of people do, and maybe they are right, but Sal treats him with respect, picks his brain and takes and applies what, if anything, is worth taking from a self taught and proclaimed expert. That is true genius. The more I read of Spyderco and their owner's attention to the least of people, guys like me, the more I realize the may be one of the finest small knifemaking companies on the planet, and I don't particularly like their product's looks, though I love my Native. Maybe it's just the difference in being a small company vs a large one.
 
I'm not sure if it is the same thing or not, but I believe that Cliff Stamp told you a long time ago that Kershaw was under hardening steel. Again, I have a Leek. It's a great design but the steel does seem soft. Like I say, I'm not sure that Cliff was speaking of the same soft grind or soft steel, but would guess he was.

PS, I would advise you that you need to take that peckerhead off your avatar. Too many people associate a person with an avatar. That guy is a kid abuser.

ok, first, you mention cliff stamp. now im not going to go into about anything he has said or done here on the forums, but you have to consider, it was his opinion that you are going on when it comes to Kershaw "underhardening" steels. alot of people, from my observations, really dont care what cliff had to say.

as for your longer post (#34) you may not care who Thomas is, but i will tell you this. He is very protective of Kershaw, he voices his opinion in arguments, and is a really good guy. yeah there are other companies, but go around the Kershaw forum and view posts. he has done a crap load of stuff for us, be it taking care of issues we've had with a knife to just flat out being nice. you wont find anyone in the business (in my opinion anyway) as nice. (please note, i have nothing against Sal or Jerry or anyone else.)

Also, I doubt that he was "attacking" ehhh at all. I've reacted to people that way before over stuff and it wasnt taken as "attacking". lets all just cut eachother some slack huh?

btw, how is Spyderco small???

also with how Sal delt with Cliff, thats just how Sal does things. Kershaw got waay more crap from Cliff than Spyderco did correct?

Ehhh, the picture sure does show a bend there. A picture is worth a thousand words. I'd get a hold of W&R for that one. They'll make good. You can count on them.

Silverhead, Ehhh is making a comment about a problem in a positive way and has what is/ seems like a W&R case. You are just being provocative for no real reason. Thomas has done a lot for a lot of us on this forum. Taking random potshots at him for no reason I can see isn't a real good way to gain popularity and make friends.Also note he is a mod.

Beefing about sigs and avatars is kind of childish in fact. Lets talk about knives. Joe

i do agree with The Mastiff. really really dumb thing to say about ones avatar. besides, just because Thomas likes Bobby Knight doesnt mean he supports the stuff he does off the court.

as for the actual topic of this thread, I have the JYD2. its a great knife and I use it for almost everything (sometimes you have to get the others some lovin :D). it is a rarity for an edge to come out uneven. however like Kneedeep said, it is prolly because of the beed blasting. it would make sense that way. my point is, the JYD2 that I have is blasted, and the grinds were fine. as others have pointed out, Kershaw will take care of ya if you choose to use them.
 
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I am soooooooo glad I missed this one. Someone pinged me on this. Coming from the outside, and late, I have to tell you I think there is nothing wrong with ehhh's #1 post, or Thomas's first reply. It's when Ehhh played victim defensive in his second post that things went south. No one attacked him. People who play that card are bating for a fight. It could have continued as a valuable "debate". The fact that Thomas is invested enough, passionate enough to defend his product is admirable and he has every right to defend his product on this forum, just like ehhh gave a fair review. There is nothing unethical about him having been here or done that. Would we all rather he just fold like a cheap lawn chair or cry "why are you attacking me???? :yawn:" Good grief. I really want nothing of this, so I'll pass. Here's my latest knife.... It has a repaired handle with lead pins and cuts better than 90% of any modern knives I've held. Look how corny and cheap that repair job is. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder (and user) and I LOVE this knife. Buy and use whatever turns your crank. Oh, and I AM very similar to my Avatar. Nothing worse than a pissed off wiener dog with a knife ;)
 
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I am soooooooo glad I missed this one. Someone pinged me on this. Coming from the outside, and late, I have to tell you I think there is nothing wrong with ehhh's #1 post, or Thomas's first reply. It's when Ehhh played victim defensive in his second post that things went south. No one attacked him. People who play that card are bating for a fight. It could have continued as a valuable "debate". The fact that Thomas is invested enough, passionate enough to defend his product is admirable and he has every right to defend his product on this forum, just like ehhh gave a fair review. There is nothing unethical about him having been here or done that. Would we all rather he just fold like a cheap lawn chair or cry "why are you attacking me???? :yawn:" Good grief. I really want nothing of this, so I'll pass. Here's my latest knife.... It has a repaired handle with lead pins and cuts better than 90% of any modern knives I've held. Look how corny and cheap that repair job is. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder (and user) and I LOVE this knife. Buy and use whatever turns your crank. Oh, and I AM very similar to my Avatar. Nothing worse than a pissed off wiener dog with a knife ;)

agreed. though the dog comment is funny
 
I don't know where in my 2nd post I played victim, but alright, we all know what they say about opinions. I think this thread went south when the fanboys started chiming in about how I'm wrong and how Kershaw is flawless. They're not - which isn't to say they aren't still a fine knife company. If you mean post #15, yes I questioned the aggression, but I don't feel I played "victim." Nice try though.

And then of course, after I post a pic, it's all "Oh, Kershaw will take great care of you, send it in to W&R!" I've also had experience with their W&R department and I had a positive experience with that too. I sent my ZDP Leek in because I couldn't cut myself with it even if I tried, and there were some other minor issues, and they sent it back in great condition. I'm not going to lie, it didn't come back with a much better edge but they solved everything else and overnighted it back to me. Great service imo, considering ZDP was pretty new at the time (and thus harder to get the edge right).

I'm not going to send this back because it's fine. I've said this SO many times which is why I don't understand all the panty bunching going on around here.
I think those of you defending Kershaw so vigorously should apologize to Thomas and Kershaw for dragging this thread into such a flaming spiral. You're doing quite the opposite of what you intend, in my opinion.

To be absolutely CLEAR, I like the knife. It is a good, affordable knife that is very capable.

EDIT: Also to explain what a soft grind is, because it seems people are misunderstanding. By a soft grind, I am not talking about the edge bevel. I'm talking about the grinds that thin the blade so there can be an edge. I can't really explain it well in words, but if you're really confused, I'll post a picture explaining it.
 
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