Quick question about the Manix 2 CPM S110V

[bowman78]

Hey guys, sorry for posting so many questions recently about the Manix 2.

I know theres a few Standard Manix 2 Blades one being in S110V but I'm curious about an XL blade.

I'm interested in "customizing" my Manix 2 with a different blade in the future, however I'm getting the Manix 2 XL

I'm wondering if there is a S110V Blade for the Manix 2 XL not just the Manix 2 Standard.

If there isn't what other steels come in the Manix 2 XL blade dimensions.
So far I'm aware of an S90V Blade as well as the standard S30V.

Thanks for all your guys help! I'm glad to be on this forum and supporting it.

 

[Swigert]

Just the two you mentioned are your only options and the s90v will need to come second hand as they are sold out at knife works.

 

[bowman78]

Just the two you mentioned are your only options and the s90v will need to come second hand as they are sold out at knife works.

So there's an XL blade in S110V? I'd prefer that over an S90V blade.

 

[3rdGenRigger]

He means only S30V (Regular production) and S90V. There has been no S110V Manix2 XL thus far.

 

[bowman78]

He means only S30V (Regular production) and S90V. There has been no S110V Manix2 XL thus far.

OK thank you. I didn't know which two he was talking about.

 

[Blade Runner 7]

I would go S90V over S110V anyway.

 

[singularity35]

I would go S90V over S110V anyway.

May I ask why?

Oops, I just did.

 

[Blade Runner 7]

May I ask you why you think S110V is better than S90V? I think most people see a higher # and assume it means it's better. Better at what?

 

[bowman78]

May I ask you why you think S110V is better than S90V? I think most people see a higher # and assume it means it's better. Better at what?

The metal composition makes it better in pretty much every aspect. Its essentially S90V on steroids. Its more wear resistant and corrosion resistant. Has more chromium, more stainless. Only downside is its harder meaning It'll chip instead of flexing like S90V would. S110V is also harder to sharpen, but holds an the same, if not longer. Basically S110V is stronger and will last longer at the cost of a harder knife that will be tougher to sharpen and will chip instead of flexing. S110V will hold an edge a bit longer as well but S90V will get sharper and will take less time to sharpen.

Personally I'd choose both steels under certain circumstances. I'd weather baton a S110V and abuse it with bushcraft. Keeping a S90V for slicing, food prep, etc. Things that need a sharper blade for. S30V would be my ideal choice for a sharp slicer, softer and easier to sharpen.

P.S. S110V has been known to be one of the hardest and longest lasting steels that is still known not to chip

 

[Blade Runner 7]

I'll have to disagree with you somewhat. On paper what you say is true. In reality S110V has had less than positive results as far as knives are concerned. I'm no expert so I'm just giving my take on what I've read here and a few other message boards. It's supposed to be extremely difficult to heat treat properly and even then it's extremely prone to chipping. Then i read (Ankersons I believe) comparison of S110V and other more common steels. The results were pretty weak. It dulled much faster than it should have. I don't see any real advantage to taking the gamble on a steel with a questionable track record when the results you get from S90V are so predictable and it's already better than anyone could really ask for. Has S90V really ever let any of us down? Was anyone disappointed by anything with it?

 

[bowman78]

I'll have to disagree with you somewhat. On paper what you say is true. In reality S110V has had less than positive results as far as knives are concerned. I'm no expert so I'm just giving my take on what I've read here and a few other message boards. It's supposed to be extremely difficult to heat treat properly and even then it's extremely prone to chipping. Then i read (Ankersons I believe) comparison of S110V and other more common steels. The results were pretty weak. It dulled much faster than it should have. I don't see any real advantage to taking the gamble on a steel with a questionable track record when the results you get from S90V are so predictable and it's already better than anyone could really ask for. Has S90V really ever let any of us down? Was anyone disappointed by anything with it?

Yea exactly. Its overkill. It would be something your asking to last a life time compared to performing well. Its more a knife you don't need to maintain as well. That being said, I do like the idea of a steel that can do that but I'd prefer S90V anyway for the easy sharpening the harder edge, and S30V as a slicer.

From another point of view, if we add in the fact that these blades are all Spyderco knives the heat treating is probably some of the best quality as far as I'm concerned. So this CPM S110V steel will be quite high quality. But like I said earlier I personally prefer S90V as well.

 

[singularity35]

May I ask you why you think S110V is better than S90V? I think most people see a higher # and assume it means it's better. Better at what?

I never said it's better, I just asked why you preferred S90V. I pointedly asked that way because I felt that you were looking for an argument in your post. Anyway here we are...

 

[Blade Runner 7]

Yea exactly. Its overkill. It would be something your asking to last a life time compared to performing well. Its more a knife you don't need to maintain as well. That being said, I do like the idea of a steel that can do that but I'd prefer S90V anyway for the easy sharpening the harder edge, and S30V as a slicer.

From another point of view, if we add in the fact that these blades are all Spyderco knives the heat treating is probably some of the best quality as far as I'm concerned. So this CPM S110V steel will be quite high quality. But like I said earlier I personally prefer S90V as well.

The Ankerson test was on the LW Manix 2 in S110V. That's kinda the point. Given a level playing field, S110V didn't perform any better than other steels. At least that's what I took from it.

I never said it's better, I just asked why you preferred S90V. I pointedly asked that way because I felt that you were looking for an argument in your post. Anyway here we are...

Looking for an argument? All I said was I would go with S90V. If that sounds like someone looking for an argument then you sound like someone looking for someone looking for an argument. If anything, I was trying to make the OP feel better about not being able to get the XL in S110V.

 

[Blade Runner 7]

Just remembered the test I read had nothing to do with Ankerson. Sorry about that. It was a couple of guys I think from Russia doing the test and reporting on them here. I'll try to dig it up later.

 

[singularity35]

Looking for an argument? All I said was I would go with S90V. If that sounds like someone looking for an argument then you sound like someone looking for someone looking for an argument. If anything, I was trying to make the OP feel better about not being able to get the XL in S110V.

It's moot since you already got in one...

This post also seems to prove me right since nobody ever said here that S110V is better...

May I ask you why you think S110V is better than S90V? I think most people see a higher # and assume it means it's better. Better at what?

BTW, you see one review from some guy and you already think you know all about the steel?

Just remembered the test I read had nothing to do with Ankerson. Sorry about that. It was a couple of guys I think from Russia doing the test and reporting on them here. I'll try to dig it up later.

 

[Blade Runner 7]

Seemed like a conversation until you brought up argument. Chill out bro. No need to cause drama where there isn't any. We are all here to discuss knives. If you're here to troll hunt, you have become the troll.

 

[singularity35]

Seemed like a conversation until you brought up argument. Chill out bro. No need to cause drama where there isn't any. We are all here to discuss knives. If you're here to troll hunt, you have become the troll.

Haha, yep...you're busted "bro".

To whom were you addressing this post since nobody here was saying what you're saying that somebody was saying....

May I ask you why you think S110V is better than S90V? I think most people see a higher # and assume it means it's better. Better at what?

 

[Blade Runner 7]

Stop trying to start a fight.

 

[NJBillK]

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...Retention-cutting-5-8-quot-rope?highlight=810
check that out, I'll keep my s110v, thank you very much!

Tldr:
S110V - 1120 - Manix 2 - 62 RC - Regrind to .005" behind the edge.
CPM 10V - 1100 - Spyderco/Farid K2 - 63 HRC - .020" behind the edge.
S110V - 720 - Manix 2 - 62 RC
S90V - 600 - Benchmade 940-1 - 59-61 RC - .018" Behind the edge.
S90V - 460 - Military - 60 RC
S90V/CPM 154 - Para 2 - 460 - ? RC

 

[bowman78]

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...Retention-cutting-5-8-quot-rope?highlight=810
check that out, I'll keep my s110v, thank you very much!

Tldr:
S110V - 1120 - Manix 2 - 62 RC - Regrind to .005" behind the edge.
CPM 10V - 1100 - Spyderco/Farid K2 - 63 HRC - .020" behind the edge.
S110V - 720 - Manix 2 - 62 RC
S90V - 600 - Benchmade 940-1 - 59-61 RC - .018" Behind the edge.
S90V - 460 - Military - 60 RC
S90V/CPM 154 - Para 2 - 460 - ? RC

Thank you! This helps greatly. I've seen this before but I couldn't find it a second time for some reason.