Random gun thoughts (or what should I get next?)

Check out the accessories page at Fulton Armory. They have a couple diff mounts.
There is another excellent brand of mount I cant pull the name of up at the moment, will post it when it emerges from the fog I call a memory.
 
kamagong said:
Where's Danny? I expected him to have chimed in by now.
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Sorry, I have been busy with the new job.

I have an M1A and I bought 25-round mags from CMI (the supplier for the military and SA) So capacity is almost as high as the smaller rifles. The M1A pleases me with it's shape more than anything else. The taper of the profile is just damned sexy. I don't think I even want to scope it; that would be like forcing Megan Fox to wear a huge sombrero.

I am uncertain about shotguns. I have had 870's in the past, but I don't hunt birds, really, and I use my Hi-power for home protection.

My most recent purchase was, believe it or not, a Winchester Model 70 Super Express. I didn't expect to ever buy a bolt action rifle with a 4 shot capacity, but the 458 winchester magnum cartridges really make me giddy. Also, I have never had a rifle with a monte carlo stock and really nice checkering. There is something "warm and fuzzy" about those high-class touches. (I am a HUGE Bwana wanna-be)

I am thinking about getting a double-barreled twelve gauge with rifle sights to shoot slugs out of. They call it the "poor man's double rifle."

If you want a combat shotgun, there are lots of good choices out there, Remington 870 and Ithaca 37's are my personal choices. The combat shotgun requires some training, though, so you can't just think about the purchase alone. They all need stock and receiver-mounted shell carriers and you need to learn how to keep them fed while shooting. But hey, training is 50% of the fun, so enjoy all of it.
Shop for a shotgun AND a defensive shotgun training course.
 
DannyinJapan said:
I am thinking about getting a double-barreled twelve gauge with rifle sights to shoot slugs out of. They call it the "poor man's double rifle."
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I'm working on this concept also. My current resident shotgun is a Stoeger Uplander with screw in chokes, 26" barrels, 2 triggers, extractors, in 12 ga.

The right barrel shoots to point of aim with slugs, but the left is way off at 50yards. I was cogitating about this last night. I think i will try a larger front bead, then install a smaller mid rib bead. I was able to get decent results at 50 yards with just the front bead. I hope to use the mid bead for consistent alignment for the right barrel, then set the front bead to the right of the mid bead for the left barrel. It may work. If not, slug in one side, shot in the other for small game is not a bad concept either.

+1 on the training! Excellent training/practice with ANY gun is better than little training and practice with the "best" gun.

take care,

Tom
 
DannyinJapan said:
I am thinking about getting a double-barreled twelve gauge with rifle sights to shoot slugs out of. They call it the "poor man's double rifle."
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I think Tom's onto something, Danny. I really enjoy my Stoeger. The Outback is an O/U with a 20" barrel, rifle sites, screw in chokes, and comes in two different finishes. Mine's the "upgraded" nickle one, and it came in around $350ish dollars. I don't know what barrel length you are going for, but 20" makes a fine scouting gun. Also, its a single trigger with NON-selective fire. The bottom always goes first and the top is cocked by the recoil, but if you are just using it as a slug gun who cares. I will say that the shorter barrel makes slugs a bit rougher on the shoulder.

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This is what mine looks like.

I used to wonder about ONLY having 2 shots while out in the wilds. However the speed at which you can through a lot of lead down range is impressive. I can empty both barrels quicker than I can get my 870 pumped one and half times. When traveling by car where a handgun is not an option, this little puppy is under the seat:thumbup:
 
DannyinJapan said:
If you want a combat shotgun, there are lots of good choices out there, Remington 870 and Ithaca 37's are my personal choices. The combat shotgun requires some training, though, so you can't just think about the purchase alone. They all need stock and receiver-mounted shell carriers and you need to learn how to keep them fed while shooting. But hey, training is 50% of the fun, so enjoy all of it.
Shop for a shotgun AND a defensive shotgun training course.
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I'd highly recommend against that. The stock shell holders aren't really fast to get to and make shooting from the off shoulder difficult. Try it if you want, they are easy to remove.

The SideSaddle receiver ammo holder require you to drill and tap the receiver, and IMO throw the balance of the gun way off.

A better option is to keep a pistol belt with a shot shell pouch from Tactical Tailor, FMCO or Maxpedition mounted to it. They all make ones that hold 12 shells in each pouch.

Or get a second pants belt with a belt slide to hold 4 or 6 rounds each on. Either way, keep the belt near the gun, and you can throw it on over your pants, jammies, or nothing, depending on your state of dress. There are also shell bags, or even "tactical" bags with velcro lining that take inserts to hold shot shells.
 
SAIGA - 12 gauge

semi auto shotgun on a AK frame and receiver. used by the spetsnaz.

one of my next purchases.
 
Get a bandoleer:D

Actually, i carry a stock sleeve on my truck gun that really only holds the shells so that I know where they are. I take the sleeve off when I shoot, but at least i know where at least 5 rounds of ammo are:)
 
rroundy said:
SAIGA - 12 gauge

semi auto shotgun on a AK frame and receiver. used by the spetsnaz.
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Excellent shotgun...at least after the trigger is fixed.

I remember when these were going for $200. I should have bought ten of them.
 
The Saiga-12s are "Dy-NO-Mite", especially if you convert them to standard pistol grip/folding stock AK configuration.
 
the 870 is a great shotgun in any configuration, I recommend getting at least the 3"magnum, for the versatility.
As for the large cal. semi-auto, might I recommend the FAL? in 7.62 or .308, do your research though they are made in metric and inch patterns, damn good rifles. I recommend checking out A.R.S. (Arizona Response Systems), I dont have an FAL from them but they are Very highly regarded in the FAL community.

best of luck in your decision!
 
Let me say this and I'll quit: You can't go wrong with a nice Winchester model 70 or a remington 700 in 308, 30-06 or something bigger.
Reliable as gravity, last 200 years, accurate as anything out there.
M1A is great and an awesome choice, but a great bolt action rifle is going to serve you very, very well.
 
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