Random Thought Thread

tinfoil hat timmy said:
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Nathan the Machinist said:
Well, that sucks for the people that live there that rely upon Walmart. I'll bet a lot of those people would benefit from a well trained and well-funded police network and a functional criminal justice system that would discourage rampant theft with enforced penalties for that kind of behavior.

Oh well. I guess people will just have to figure out how to get by without shops and stores.

*shrug*
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a problem with there being a lot of desperate people out there is that increasing policing and punishment alone can't solve the problem. The current size of the prison population in the US is absolutely insane, and there doesn't seem to be much incentive to deal with that in a way that goes to the heart of the issue. I think that the vandalism, theft and everything associated with that stuff has become almost intractable and it's going to get worse from here. Just throwing money at these things does not work, there is going to have to be a more systemic response of some kind.

I was thinking today about the 2008 meltdown and how many desperate people that episode in history created. Displaced families suddenly with nothing, whose kids are now adults and who are maybe caught up in the shenanigans we're seeing take place everywhere.

I think a lot of times, individuals tend to see groups of people as static and monolithic, but the reality is that shit happens and people move into and out of demographic groups- when a family loses everything overnight and is forced to live in shelters and eat at soup kitchens, or when an addict kicks their habit, and then gets their life on track. There's a lot of nuance when you look at an individual's situation, but it seems to me that that nuance gets lost when talking about populations of people.

Personally, I think the cure for most of what ails us in societies is empathy. I don't think there isn't bad people, who act in ways that should result in imprisonment etc,, and don't think defunding police is a smart move, for example. I feel like the divisiveness in our societies causes us all to paint with too broad a brush and it robs us of our ability to put ourselves in the shoes of others.
 
Lorien said:
a problem with there being a lot of desperate people out there is that increasing policing and punishment alone can't solve the problem. The current size of the prison population in the US is absolutely insane, and there doesn't seem to be much incentive to deal with that in a way that goes to the heart of the issue. I think that the vandalism, theft and everything associated with that stuff has become almost intractable and it's going to get worse from here. Just throwing money at these things does not work, there is going to have to be a more systemic response of some kind.

I was thinking today about the 2008 meltdown and how many desperate people that episode in history created. Displaced families suddenly with nothing, whose kids are now adults and who are maybe caught up in the shenanigans we're seeing take place everywhere.

I think a lot of times, individuals tend to see groups of people as static and monolithic, but the reality is that shit happens and people move into and out of demographic groups- when a family loses everything overnight and is forced to live in shelters and eat at soup kitchens, or when an addict kicks their habit, and then gets their life on track. There's a lot of nuance when you look at an individual's situation, but it seems to me that that nuance gets lost when talking about populations of people.

Personally, I think the cure for most of what ails us in societies is empathy. I don't think there isn't bad people, who act in ways that should result in imprisonment etc,, and don't think defunding police is a smart move, for example. I feel like the divisiveness in our societies causes us all to paint with too broad a brush and it robs us of our ability to put ourselves in the shoes of others.
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Divide and conquer is effective for more reasons than one. We hate on each other and do the bad guys work for them. all it does is distract us from who's doing the screwing so we end up hacking at leaves instead of hitting the roots with ''stump remover''..........
(dynamite)
yoko said:
Sooooo


Had panda express for lunch (only the second time ever)

I understand the name........... it was looking for the express lane out of my body....... and it felt like a panda clawing it's way out

Sorry if that's a bit graphic... but sweet Jesus
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Did the box hug your face for three days while it layed sweet and sour chicken bites in your stomach?
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
Divide and conquer is effective for more reasons than one. We hate on each other and do the bad guys work for them. all it does is distract us from who's doing the screwing so we end up hacking at leaves instead of hitting the roots with ''stump remover''..........
(dynamite)

Did the box hug your face for three days while it layed sweet and sour chicken bites in your stomach?
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that is an astute analogy👍
 
yoko said:
Sooooo


Had panda express for lunch (only the second time ever)

I understand the name........... it was looking for the express lane out of my body....... and it felt like a panda clawing it's way out

Sorry if that's a bit graphic... but sweet Jesus
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I've only gone to a Panda Express once too.

I didn't get sick but I've never gone back because it's not "real" Chinese food.

If I'm going for "fast food," I'd rather get a Togo's or Subway sandwich instead.
 
What? San Diego State Aztecs beat Alabama in the Sweet 16 tourney advancing to the Elite 8? I'm not even into basketball (collegiate or NBA) but I know that this is kinda big upset! You see, San Diego despite donning itself as "America's Finest City" is a pretty crappy sport city and always, most definitely the little dorky sister city to the bigger and more glamorous Siss' Los Angeles and San Fran with the hugest chip on her shoulders. We used to have an NFL team (Chargers) which bailed outta town, long story. We have an MLB team (Padres) which I guess is the only remaining jewel in this city's pro sports crown. Meh!

BTW, I'm not even into any sports and I don't live in the city, I live in San Diego County! All I want to hear really is Nathan's take on the homeless/hobo issue, the rampant crime and his lucid thoughts if he can avoid the political/tribal slant as much as it is possible in such discussion. I enjoyed Lorien's take, he's a good dude. I am rambling while drinking coffee and I want a CPK-Folder.

Managed to cram in all the randos :thumbsup:
 
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