RANT: argh... frustrating people and my 18" WWII.

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I don't feel to well, so i'm gonna make this as brief as possible.

my favourite khukuri for going on camping trips is an older model, 18" WWII Bura made, horn handled khukuri mounted in steel. The wide cho is close to the bolster.

the edge is thinner than usual, and it's almost a cross between a sirupati and a WWII. it is quite light, 1lb 8 oz. i like it b/c it's light enough to clear brush all day long but definitely capable of handling midsized branches for firewood or kindling. Great all around carry. to me, it's the perfect cross between an axe and a machete.

well, i let a friend borrow it.

the first thing the guy did was cut some branches so we could start a fire. he took my WWII and began sawing the branch with the area between the cho and the "sweet spot". The long slender part of the blade if you will. i corrected him after chuckling quietly to myself.

i told him to cut with the "belly" area of the blade. i went away to gather some kindling.

i came back to find out he was cutting 2" diameter branches with the tip of the khukhuri!! (first 1" of the khukuri) for God's sake! i corrected him, told him again to cut with the sweet spot. "the tip is made to be soft, so that it will bend rather than break off"

anyways! i came back and guess what. he completely folded .5 cm of the tip. i tried to hammer the tip back but it just broke off. DAMN. i wasn't really thinking...

he also had the oddest way of chopping wood. he would chop at a 45 degree angle and once the blade sunk into the wood, he would twist than blade. i guess to "break off" the chip of wood.

he also took a very nice hand axe from a friend of mine, placed his "walking" stick on a piece of flat granite and began chopping away. i got it back with edge damage.

i've used that khukuri for 2 years now. i shudder to think what this guy would do with a lesser blade. i'm going to regrind the tip (if at all possible).

i would like to say that he's the nicest guy. you come over to his house and he'll treat you like it was your place. the one thing about him is that he's the type of guy to borrow your stuff and either never return it, or possibly return it in a state of disrepair. we had a saying that his house was the blackhole of returned items.

at first i thought that he was the type of guy that didn't think much of possessions. you know, he'd freely give as much as he freely borrowed (whether you wanted to or not). well, he carved some kind of walking stick out of a branch he cut off my friend's property and he COVETED that piece of wood.

anyways, i said to him, you're a great guy, you'd stand up for your friends no matter what and have more worldly knowledge on the state of the human condition than most i know, but man, you don't know squat about knives.

that's my rant.

p.s. i don't pretend to know more about the wild than ya'll do, as i'm just a city boy who hikes on the occasion. but man, i thought that everyone knew that you couldn't start a fire with rotten, spongy wet wood. used up all my starters! GEEZE!
 
That's ok. I've been on hikes with folks who bring no water. Or hikes with folks who on a cool day in the mountains just have a t shirt and shorts. Go figure. :confused:

Perhaps some folks are destined o be on the 6 o'clock news. The only problem is that I carry extra stuff so these people don't suffer too badly.

I guess it would kinda suck if someone died on an outing.

Too bad about the knife and axe though. :(
 
It's people like this that make me carry a J-frame revolver first and an automatic as back up. "Yes, the gun I am pointing at you really is loaded!" Glaser Blue's really stand out from the front of the cylinder in daylight.

Every now and then, I pick up some nail polish and apply it to the tips of my other carry loads so they can see them better.
 
Now, that is a problem; a bad guy challenged on reality testing for various tool and situations. He wouldn't believe the gun was loaded. He'd think the gun was a toy.

>>>


munk
 
in the "Return of the YCS" thread folks were looking for someone to test the new khuks..

just kidding.
 
Dave, that really sucks. I hate to say the "M" word but your campling acquaintance sounds like a moron. However, look at it as a valuable life lesson, really. Better you should find out via a broken tip on your khuk and and a bunch of firestarters that this idjit couldn't exercise any kind of common sense, than to go with him again on another perhaps more dangerous outing and trust him not to end up killing you as well, while he's cleaning up the gene pool.

I have been around folks like this and they just attract bad events to them as a matter of course. So now you know, but I can still empathize with on the damage to your favorite blade!

Take care,

Norm
 
Tell him to buy his own knife next time, he's obviously too hard-headed to use yours. After a few situations like that I'm very wary of lending my knives out to anyone who's not a knife nut :)
"Can I borrow your knife?"
"Do you need a screwdriver? I have one."
"Yeah, okay" :rolleyes:
 
Next time i went on a trip with this guy i'd bring him a 12" blackie collins machete, a $5.99 walmart "camp axe", and a $9.00 ka-bar flea market knockoff. Then explain to him that khuks and very nice hand axes are "big boy toys" and until he can understand that they are not industructable nor are they to be used haphazardly, then he has to sit at the little kids table of knives. OR if you really feel that this guy is a true friend and you don't want to hurt his feelings, then get him a SAK tinker or something like that. Put him in charge of cutting fuzzy sticks or carving marshmellow sticks or opening cans (just check for bits of metal in your food;)). Maybe if you devide the work up like that he wont feel like he's being talked down to. I have a friend very much like yours. He's watched too many movies and expects knives to behave in same way they do on film. On top of that he's a huge brute of a guy and kinda akward. He and I were on a camping trip up in some cliffs a year or two ago. I let him use my Shanker 15" AK and he was just wailing on a log (for no real reason mind you). It was then that on his upswing the blade flew from his his big monkey paws and rolled end over end down a 20 or 30 foot cliff. It seems to hit every rock it possibly could on the way down. The good news, it survived it. I had a lot of grinding and sharpening to do and the handle is held together with super glue, JB weld, and black hose tape. BUT, the AK still works. I never got mad at him because it was an accident and he felt really bad about it, but i wasn't HAPPY about it either. Best of luck to you and your injured khuk:)

Jake
 
I'd be plenty damned angry!:mad:

I wouldn't say I wouldn't let him use anymore of my knives ever again but if I did it would be with an understanding all spelled out in very plain English!
If he was a kid it would be different and handled differently, like the kid that's one of my good friends boy.
He told me he knew how to handle a good knife and I trusted him, big mistake!:rolleyes: He trashed the hell outta my CS Trailmaster while cutting down saplings for a Sweatlodge down in Arkansas, and that was after I told him to be careful and not hit any rocks with it.
I expected a ding or two, but he trashed the whole damned edge!:mad:
I took it away from him and he will Not use one of my good knives again, period!
 
Sorry to hear about that. :( A real stand-up guy would offer to replace it for you.
 
Steely_Gunz said:
OR if you really feel that this guy is a true friend and you don't want to hurt his feelings, then get him a SAK tinker or something like that. Put him in charge of cutting fuzzy sticks or carving marshmellow sticks

Noooo! Someone like that will find a way to cut your hotdog/marshmallow sticks out of oleander! :footinmou :eek: :barf:
 
I always try to use the "right tool for the job", as I am sure most people here do. Which makes me wonder why all the talk about using a khukuri for chopping wood when the preferred tool is an axe?

I could see that a khukuri might be useful for hacking through thick underbrush, but a traditional machete would probably do a better job.

I realize that in Nepal a khukuri is universally used to chop wood, but those tools are bought for a couple of dollars not a hundred or so like those bought here.

I've come to the conclusion that the only practical use for an HI khukuri would be for splitting skulls or beheading. Since the opportunity for those activities come infrequently in general American society, I guess chopping wood is the only activity that justifies owning a khukuri as more than a decoration or a collectible possession.
 
Noooo! Someone like that will find a way to cut your hotdog/marshmallow sticks out of oleander! ---DR

:D You're right. I hadn't thought of that. On second thought, maybe you should just take your friend to the park next time:)

Jake
 
Arghh! is right. You made me remember a situation with my uncle a couple years ago. He had killed a buck and forgot to pack a knife. He walked back to camp to get it. I was there and he said his knife was dull and asked if he could use mine. I lent him my Buck pathfinder. Now I know this is not an expensive knife, but it is my favorite to carry deer hunting. He brought it back and when I unsheathed it I about $hit. He used a big rock to bash the blade through the pelvic bone. Nice deep gouges in the spine and rolled a bit of the edge. Took me a couple hours to hone the edges to get it back in decent condition. He knew I was pi$$ed. I like to bring it up in front of my other uncles every chance I get.
 
condition. He knew I was pi$$ed. I like to bring it up in front of my other uncles every chance I get>>>> Jotto

That's terrible what he did to your knife. I have noticed that every time I've tried doing something like this- repeat the story over and over, it comes back to bite. Seems there's a window where you can tell the story, and when it closes you should stop. MHO


munk
 
I can't say too much.

As far as I know I have a decent chopping style, but I have bent the edges on a khuk and an AK bowie. Had a GB axe lose a peice of the head, and had the handle crack on an 18" AK (so far)

I'm not a big muscle bound dude, but I do really use the stuff I get for the most part. :D
 
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