Rant on plagerism

I think pattern development is an interesting thing, and can certainly be "claimed"....but you pointed out one of the problems to it right there, Bill.

Let's say a maker who doesn't have internet access to see what other makers have developed, but has gotten some of the excellent DVD's on creating patterns develops one just like yours on "accident". There is no fault there, nor intent to claim copy.

It would be how the maker reacts when you reach out to him/her and inform them that they are producing "your pattern". If they claim no knowledge of having done so and give a reasonable explanation as to how they created that pattern, I don't think there is reason to be huffy about it.

HOWEVER, if they say that they saw it at a show or on the internet, and figured out how to do it themselves...I think there is a solid reason to explain that you feel you originated and just a little credit would be nice if they don't mind. If they tell you to pack sand, well...yunno....word gets around.

I seek and value originality and creativity in the knife world, it is one of the things that draws me to it, and the who, what, why and WHEN are equally important to ME, but unfortunately, a lot of the "kids" today could give a whit about the history and how we got here. They feel entitled to do whatever they want, how they want to, and are blissfully ignorant in many cases. Their loss and ultimate folly.....'cause you and I both know, there is only so much room at the table and if you are not welcome......you are out in the parking lot.

Rock on my brother!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
A few years back the same guy accused me of copying his design on a drop point hunter. Really? A drop point hunter? LOL Funny thing is, I never even made the knife. I just responded to a thread and told a fellow BF member that I could make him something SIMILAR to a knife in a photo he posted.
I'm not sure but I think he still holds that against me. Maybe now he knows what that kind of thing feels like.
 
Bill,

I probably shouldn't say this, but.... I just started making knives about 3 yrs. ago so I'm not familiar with all the knives you have made in the last 10 or 20 yrs. Therefore, please let me apologize in advance if any of the knives I start posting in the next few months resemble anything you have ever made. If you find such a knife, and let me know, I will immediately fall on said knife as penance. If I survive my penance, I will be sure to send you all my future designs for pre-production approval.

Tongue in cheek I remain very truly yours,

Tim
 
Bill,

I probably shouldn't say this, but.... I just started making knives about 3 yrs. ago so I'm not familiar with all the knives you have made in the last 10 or 20 yrs. Therefore, please let me apologize in advance if any of the knives I start posting in the next few months resemble anything you have ever made. If you find such a knife, and let me know, I will immediately fall on said knife as penance. If I survive my penance, I will be sure to send you all my future designs for pre-production approval.

Tongue in cheek I remain very truly yours,

Tim

Is this funny? Is there something I am missing here, some inside joke?

Bill posted a legitimate issue, and it has been a good discussion.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I think pattern development is an interesting thing, and can certainly be "claimed"....but you pointed out one of the problems to it right there, Bill.

Let's say a maker who doesn't have internet access to see what other makers have developed, but has gotten some of the excellent DVD's on creating patterns develops one just like yours on "accident". There is no fault there, nor intent to claim copy.

It would be how the maker reacts when you reach out to him/her and inform them that they are producing "your pattern". If they claim no knowledge of having done so and give a reasonable explanation as to how they created that pattern, I don't think there is reason to be huffy about it.

HOWEVER, if they say that they saw it at a show or on the internet, and figured out how to do it themselves...I think there is a solid reason to explain that you feel you originated and just a little credit would be nice if they don't mind. If they tell you to pack sand, well...yunno....word gets around.

I seek and value originality and creativity in the knife world, it is one of the things that draws me to it, and the who, what, why and WHEN are equally important to ME, but unfortunately, a lot of the "kids" today could give a whit about the history and how we got here. They feel entitled to do whatever they want, how they want to, and are blissfully ignorant in many cases. Their loss and ultimate folly.....'cause you and I both know, there is only so much room at the table and if you are not welcome......you are out in the parking lot.

Rock on my brother!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

I think that's a stretch but possible... regarding the idea that one figured out the pattern accident.
 
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