Rare 34ot - bid now!

relodr36

relodr36

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lenght 3 1/4" closed, blades three good snap have been used still look full, handles delrin with old timer emblem no cracks or chips solid, stamping(SCHRADE U.S.A. 34 OT) this is a very good used old timer thanks for looking i have other knives listed check them out.

May be one-ova-kind! Clip blade about the same length as the sheepfoot and spey blades,but the seller says the blades look full!
Maybe it is a rare factory mistake in that a pen blade was used instead of the clip!:jerkit:
At least,only one bidder was sucked so far!
Ron
 
Reminds me of a 104OT I got in an auction for a buck or two. I really couldn't tell that the main blade was short. When I got it someone had ground down the clip blade. Apparently it had broken. They reshaped it nicely, but made no attempt to put an edge back on it. I sharpened it and gave it my son for a sliver picker (he installs hardwood floors and often gets splinters in his fingers).

Lots of great stuff on ebay! :D :D :D

Dale
 
Gee,all of my knives are missing the thumbrest.
Another gripe I have with many knife sellers is that they gouge the buyer by shipping Priority Mail.I think many buyers take the shipping cost into consideration when they determine what their maximum bid will be.
90% of the pocketknives listed could be shipped in a box or a bubble mailer via 1st Class for $3.00,with delivery confirmation,and still leave the seller a little change to defray his Paypal fee.
Ron
 
One of the items the top seller has listed is a bayonet I been trying to find information on.The only difference is mine is#3661 and is stamped A.S.F.A.Does anyone know anything about this one.Thanks.Arnold Oh not trying to hijack,just desperate for info.See #6619316697
 
Toby,
You may want to e-mail Phil and/or Redshanks about the bayonet.They seem to have a lot of knowledge about the big stuff.

Now here's a semi-honest seller.If you know enough to ask the right question,he doesn't lie about it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7231840215&sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ:US:1

My question and his reply:

Hi,
Is this a chinese Taylor knife?
Thanks,
Ron


ron is there anything else . same steel made off compurer , a chineese guy turned on the swich not a american ?? thanks bladerunner

There sure is more Chinese guys turning switches these days than there are Americans!:mad:
I forgot to ask about the reconstituted leather sheaths that can't handle too much rain.
At least,he didn't hide the Taylor box !:D
Ron
 
Arnold... Your bayo is off a Turkish Mauser, one of my favorite fun guns. The initials A.S.F.A prove it. 8mm, accurate as hell, ammo is cheap and plentiful... but highly corrosive. If you have a friend with an FFL, you should be able to get a good hand selected one for $60. Have the headspace checked before firing it! Here's mine, bayonet fixed and defending my gun room.

Phil
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I just saw a bayonet today in a pawn shop. I should have paid more attention to the marking.
I did get a little Kabar 1019 slipjoint & 3 bladed Western States equal ended. Both inexpensive and in decent condition.

Dale
 
Phil,

YOU, my friend, have quite varied and excellent taste in long guns...:thumbup: :thumbup: ...and knives too. :)

Bill
 
It is a sickness, Bill. I deserve your sympathy & pity for it, as well as any financial support you wish to send. Paypal it to my email address please.

OK, I will try to keep this next from becoming a rant, but check out this ebay posting...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6619730872&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1

How did a bottomfeeder like this end up with one of the Schrade factory collection panels??? Note the insult to our favorite artist... this guy doesn't even know his proper initials... yet there he is, making a buck out of treasures that belong in a museum, or in someone's cherished collection.

Phil
 
textoothpk said:
How did a bottomfeeder like this end up with one of the Schrade factory collection panels??? Note the insult to our favorite artist... this guy doesn't even know his proper initials... yet there he is, making a buck out of treasures that belong in a museum, or in someone's cherished collection.
Phil
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Have you noticed that MVP isn't listing anymore? Seems to me that many others within close proximity to MVP's location have become "fronts" for them. Same 'BS', same 'errors' and same style.

Remember, if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck and looks like a duck, the chances are pretty good IT IS a duck.
 
textoothpk said:
How did a bottomfeeder like this end up with one of the Schrade factory collection panels??? Phil
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Like Del said - look at the seller's location.
Likely a "street peddler" for the Tennessee Mafia Dons.
 
textoothpk said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6619730872&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1

How did a bottomfeeder like this end up with one of the Schrade factory collection panels??? Note the insult to our favorite artist... this guy doesn't even know his proper initials...
Phil
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Phil, if I'd known beforehand this listing was going to upset you so bad, I wouldn't have emailed it to ya! ;) At least the seller is improving in your eyes, earlier he was a...how should I put this... an ignorant posterior, now he's just a bottom feeder! lol
Besides, I think I did read somewhere Frank's hi skool footballl jersey was #79, maybe that's what mixed up the seller.....:rolleyes

Oh BTW my Hundred buck 34OT should be here mid next week, can't wait! lol
(how many chairs tipped over when I said that??)
 
woseyjales said:
Oh BTW my Hundred buck 34OT should be here mid next week, can't wait! lol
(how many chairs tipped over when I said that??)
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We definitely want to see a picture of that 34ot!
 
textoothpk said:
How did a bottomfeeder like this end up with one of the Schrade factory collection panels??? Note the insult to our favorite artist... this guy doesn't even know his proper initials... yet there he is, making a buck out of treasures that belong in a museum, or in someone knife collectors Association cherished collection.

Phil
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I just got home from the Oregon Knife Collectors Association show (OKCA) in Eugene, Oregon. I ran into a guy there from New York, who claim to have three panels from the factory collection, that he bought from Smokey. He even had a bunch of COA that he would fill out for me if I want to pay an outrageous price for some factory prototype knives. Actually the price probably wasn't all that outrageous but $350 was not in my budget. He said he bought the Mirando panel, as he called it, which had some knives made by Felix and two or three knives made by C. Mirando, Felix's father.

Now, I don't know if I would call this guy a scum sucking bottom feeder, I might upgrade him to carp. :D He had some nice-looking knives, but he had some nice-looking prices on them too. He lost a lot of credibility in my eyes when he told me he could give me a COA for any knife I bought from him from the Schrade collection.:barf:

I did meet some really interesting folks there, as well as some really nice folks too. I met B.K. Brooks, who wrote the article; "Schrade-100 Years of Markings." The article was published in Knife World, vol. 30 no. 6, June 2004. He had a display of some of his Schrade's there. I took some pictures and will post them later. There were a lot of nice people there, and I enjoyed myself. Five dollars admission was pretty cheap entertainment. I also learned a lot. It was a good day! :)

Now I'm going to go soak my feet, (maybe my head too),
Dale
 
You wouldn't believe how many times I walked by that collection and never really stopped to look at it. Figured I'd have time later, sounds like one of life's little lesson's doesn't it.
 
relodr36 said:
My question and his reply:

Hi,
Is this a chinese Taylor knife?
Thanks,
Ron


ron is there anything else . same steel made off compurer , a chineese guy turned on the swich not a american ?? thanks bladerunner

There sure is more Chinese guys turning switches these days than there are Americans!:mad:
I forgot to ask about the reconstituted leather sheaths that can't handle too much rain.
At least,he didn't hide the Taylor box !:D
Ron
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This is one of the reasons I have tried to bring forward information on what it takes to make a knife, and why I have gone to the trouble to examine and review the chitaylor knives, and compare them with the real deal. Even in today's computer assisted manufacturing environment, there is no such thing as a magic knife machine, where scoops of the right ingredients are dumped in by a robot, and a finished quality knife pops out the other end like a chocolate bon-bon. There is just more to it than simply pushing a button and a quality finished knife appears. If it were so simple, factories themselves would be obsolete, and we could use a Star-Trek replicator.

Codger
 
The sad, pitiful thing about the Schrade (and Imperial, mentioned above) factory collections being broken up is that there is no frame of reference for them. It's like Native American relics found and traded by amatuer collectors in this country. Those things were valuable while still in place in the ground, to a trained anthropolgist or archeolagist.... Loose on a table at a trade show, the are worthless. Same thing with dinasour bones... which are not at all hard to find for sale. But historical value? Naw..

The Schrade collection as a whole, or even in the individual panels, was a history written in steel. No doubt somewhere there was a listing, a master reference as to what was in there. Or maybe not, but there perhaps were folks at Schrade who could have provided an equally important and valuable oral history to go along with the knives. But broken up, scattered all over the country and the world, what are these things now? Nothing, just knives. So what if the serial number is 0000. Any engraver can do that for anyone. Any blade etch, or scrimshaw can be added. There was faking of knives going on long before the internet and ebay, but it's the wild wild west nowadays... a ruthless, out of control free for all. Yes, there is instant answers available on the net, like this forum here, and others. But post a tarted up anythng-Schrade on Ebay with an attractive 'Buy it now" price and an imaginative story... well, we can read of those experiences weekly at the Levine forum here at bfc.

See that sawback fake bayonet I posted a pic of above? Does anyone here doubt I can write an imaginative item description of it, perhaps have an egraver print 'Prototype' on it and clean up on ebay? Child's play.

There. I made a whole post without calling anyone names.

Phil
 
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