Rat Daddy Vs. Dog Father.

Walking Man

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Which would you want to keep and/or use, and why?
(Please ignore all price/collectibility issues)
Mods, if this is inappropriate, my sincerest apologies!
 
Rat Daddy is one of my all time favorite blades. Only the FBMLE has edged it out of the top spot. The Dog Father is basically a Battle Rat, with different steel and slightly longer, some design differences. Dog Father might well be a better chopper though, with a more forward balance and thicker stock. I have to stop talking before I convince myself to buy a Dog Father. . .

I would be interested in seeing how thick the Dog Father is behind the edge. My Rat Daddy is quite thin in comparison to my Battle Rat.
 
I will go a side by side comparision in a week or so....pics to follow.

Rat...you know what you need to do!
 
The Rat Daddy stays, no matter what! That doesn't mean I won't beat the crap out of a DF for a while before I might have to pass it on.
 
I have pined for the Rad Daddy for a while but still do not have one. I also came to the conclusion that i like ResC better than Micarta for this type of knife..

That being said, at this point in time i had to decide $500+ for 1 RD or $150 for 1 DF- I came to the only logical conclusion, $500+ worth of DF's and sheaths =)

I already have jobs for my DF lined up
 
I really like Res-C also, but the shape of the micarta handle also plays a role.....and the Rat Daddy is very nice.
 
Ironballs said:
I have pined for the Rad Daddy for a while but still do not have one. I also came to the conclusion that i like ResC better than Micarta for this type of knife..

That being said, at this point in time i had to decide $500+ for 1 RD or $150 for 1 DF- I came to the only logical conclusion, $500+ worth of DF's and sheaths =)

I already have jobs for my DF lined up
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Huh? My Rat Daddy was only $250. . . :p
 
You have to take price into account in a situation like this. The fit and finish is better on the rats. Res C is better on a big chopper. I would err on the side of caution and get both.
 
I've got a minty Battle Rat just waiting for the Dog Father to arrive for a head to head chopping comparison. Given that I think my CGFMB is a little too "neutral" for may taste, I'm still searching for a good 10" chopper. Considering buying/borrowing a SWKW Rat Daddy and Mastiff to decide. Suggestions? My favorite big chopper so far has been a Basic 9 that I miss dearly.

Thanks,

GregB

P.S. before anyone gets their underwear in a bunch, I haven't used the CGFBM yet, I'm just going by "feel/balance in the hand.
 
I passed on the DF. I kept going back to the site hoping they would sell out faster (thereby making my decision that much easier). I have a couple FBM's and a BR on the way. The reason I stayed away was the fit of the resC grip on my SS4. It is a great, I mean great knife for the price, INFI no less, but it looks like my mom was working the injection molding machine on my knife. Great infi user for 140 bones but the resC on my rats is perfect on every one of them. I know that the price point on the DF is very low and I'm sure it will be a great user but I prefer the rats and hogs over the dogs. I will be interested to hear honest input when guys start getting their orders. (I will probably start kicking myself at that point)


pete
 
I had that same gap on my SS4 but I did a bitof work to it and now it is perfect.
Dan offered to take them back if we were not happy but I found it easier to fix it myself than send it back to the US. I ordered a DF but if I would have already owned a Battle Rat I would not have bothered. I think the swamp rats have the advantage when it comes to smaller EDC knives because the SR101 has better cutting performance and micarta is nice on smaller knives. The Scrappers have the advantage on larger knives with S7 having more impact strength and RES C being such a good shock absorber. The cost difference is more noticable on the bigger knives.
 
So, what I'm hearing is (in theory) the DogFather will be able to take more abuse than a Battle Rat? I ask because I have the BR and have a DF on the way and plan to try and keep just one. Also considering buying a Basic 9. How do you think MINFI compares to SR101 and/or S77 in a big chopper?

Thanks,

GregB
 
INFI- Best of everything and a price to match
SR101- exellent edge retention and differential heat treat ,I would prefer it to
S7 in smaller knives and blades dedicated to cutting.
S7- unmatched toughness and exellent lateral strength perfect for a big chopper.

Really you can't go wrong with any of them. The Basic 9 is one of my dream knives and has everything going for it. The BR is cool and seems to be underrated as well as the best looking. The DF is as tough as the Basic and has the best cost to performance ratio especially in this type of knife.

Jerry made a statement about the DF you can find on the Scrapyard forum that explains it way better than I could.
 
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INFI- Best of everything and a price to match
SR101- exellent edge retention and differential heat treat ,I would prefer it to
S7 in smaller knives and blades dedicated to cutting.
S7- unmatched toughness and exellent lateral strength perfect for a big chopper.

Really you can't go wrong with any of them. The Basic 9 is one of my dream knives and has everything going for it. The BR is cool and seems to be underrated as well as the best looking. The DF is as tough as the Basic and has the best cost to performance ratio especially in this type of knife.

Jerry made a statement about the DF you can find on the Scrapyard forum that explains it way better than I could.
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Gotta remember though that SR77 is an imprvement over S7. It has a little more chrome to it and carbon as well to give it more wear resistance, and higher hardness. It is basically S7, just hopped up a little.

All three steels will be very close in overall toughness, the only reason why SR101 is in the same ballpark is because of it's differential HT. But it should have considerable more edge holding and wear resistance than SR77. So on a smaller knife I would prefer it to SR77. On a large knife I would say they are close. INFI would be about the same except that it has more of all the other properties including much more lateral bending strength than the other two steels.
 
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