Rat Daddy Vs. Dog Father.

I keep forgeting that it is better than regular S7 but I am not sure differential heat treat makes for a tougher blade. With the cheness katana's that are identical except the heat treat ,the through hardened ones are much tougher.
 
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I keep forgeting that it is better than regular S7 but I am not sure differential heat treat makes for a tougher blade. With the cheness katana's that are identical except the heat treat ,the through hardened ones are much tougher.
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very true. It all depends on the type of steel. S7 like INFI would not benefit from Differential HT. 52100 being a different type of steel benefits greatly from diff. HT.
 
the through-hardened Battle Rats are awesome.

I beat the crap out of mine and used it for heavy prying, no problem.
 
I have never owned a Busse or a Swamp Rat, but am looking real hard at the Scrapyard Dog Father. The price seems reasonable. For one thing, I have learned from experience that rubbery handles are are better than wood or micarta for heavy, extended use chopping. That is why I use my CS Kukri, Ont Bowie, Kershaw Outcast, and el cheapo Colt for all-day work on my property. My Rangers and RTAKs chop really well, but hand fatigue sets in fast. I use them for spitting and light chopping. Have any of you used a Dog Father to chop? How is the steel?
Respirene or kraton rubber may be ugly, but shock absorbing. At my age, this becomes more important than looks.
 
Victor L Ross said:
I have never owned a Busse or a Swamp Rat, but am looking real hard at the Scrapyard Dog Father. The price seems reasonable. For one thing, I have learned from experience that rubbery handles are are better than wood or micarta for heavy, extended use chopping. That is why I use my CS Kukri, Ont Bowie, Kershaw Outcast, and el cheapo Colt for all-day work on my property. My Rangers and RTAKs chop really well, but hand fatigue sets in fast. I use them for spitting and light chopping. Have any of you used a Dog Father to chop? How is the steel?
Respirene or kraton rubber may be ugly, but shock absorbing. At my age, this becomes more important than looks.
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People started receiving there Dog Fathers yesterday and today so hopefully we will have more reports on them soon.
 
Victor L Ross said:
I have never owned a Busse or a Swamp Rat, but am looking real hard at the Scrapyard Dog Father. The price seems reasonable. For one thing, I have learned from experience that rubbery handles are are better than wood or micarta for heavy, extended use chopping. That is why I use my CS Kukri, Ont Bowie, Kershaw Outcast, and el cheapo Colt for all-day work on my property. My Rangers and RTAKs chop really well, but hand fatigue sets in fast. I use them for spitting and light chopping. Have any of you used a Dog Father to chop? How is the steel?
Respirene or kraton rubber may be ugly, but shock absorbing. At my age, this becomes more important than looks.
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I do like the Resiprene. Far better than Kraton, and totally covered by the warranty. :thumbup:

I don't have the DF, but I have Scrapper6's and a Battle Rat. They are excellent handles.
 
Finally got out to take care of that dead pine and give the DF & BR a head to head work out. I was wearing gloves and using them to chop on a dead/petrified pine tree that had blown down and was suspended 4-5 feet off the ground by some green saplings. It only took me about 15-20 minutes to do what I needed. I started with the DF and then spent about 5-10 minutes with the BR and went right back to the DF. I felt that it definitely the better chopper. On both, I felt like the handle was a littel short, which made me consider breaking in the virgin CGFBM.

GregB
 
Greg, was it primarily the more weight that made the DF chop better? I'm assuming you didn't dull either during that time??? I guess what I'm asking is if you noticed any difference in edge holding?
 
Ironballs said:
I have pined for the Rad Daddy for a while but still do not have one. I also came to the conclusion that i like ResC better than Micarta for this type of knife..

That being said, at this point in time i had to decide $500+ for 1 RD or $150 for 1 DF- I came to the only logical conclusion, $500+ worth of DF's and sheaths =)

I already have jobs for my DF lined up
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I'm the same way. For a long time, I REALLY wanted an Ergo Battle Mistress, a Satin Battle Rat, or a Rat Daddy. Couldn't make up my mind. Then I decided to buy a Battle Guard, Ranger RD9, and Dogfather and got all 3 for less than I'd have spent on one of the above.
 
To answer your question, I think it was the extra weight that made the difference. "Out of the box" the BR felt sharper, but I think the extra weight of the DF was the deciding factor.

GregB
 
I like the RES C handles much better than the micarta for a user. The grip on my SS4 is fantastic. The DF seems awesome and I can't wait for it to get here.
 
My theory? Buy them all...

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I mic'ed (at the ricasso in front of the scales/handles) and weighed all 15 knives in the top pic today.

Here are the stats relevant to this thread:

Rat Daddy
.245" and 21 ounces

Dog Father
.286" and 20 ounces

That's right. The DF actually weighed an ounce less, despite the thickness difference. I'm sure the micarta weighs a bit more than the Res C. Plus the RD is a bit longer.
 
Horn Dog said:
I have never owned a Busse or a Swamp Rat, but am looking real hard at the Scrapyard Dog Father. The price seems reasonable. For one thing, I have learned from experience that rubbery handles are are better than wood or micarta for heavy, extended use chopping. That is why I use my CS Kukri, Ont Bowie, Kershaw Outcast, and el cheapo Colt for all-day work on my property. My Rangers and RTAKs chop really well, but hand fatigue sets in fast. I use them for spitting and light chopping. Have any of you used a Dog Father to chop? How is the steel?
Respirene or kraton rubber may be ugly, but shock absorbing. At my age, this becomes more important than looks.
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Ahhh, the Dark Ages were so rough....how did you ever make it through them Vic?
 
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