Ray Kirk MS Scagel folder

[muddy672]

It's been a good week. A Mammoth and 52100 blade. Blade is 3inchs, handle is 4inchs. .60 Ti liners and steel backspring. Halfstop. Really nice scales and feels great in the hand.

 

[tarmix101]

Ahhhhhh good for you Muddy:thumbup: Thanks for sharing the pics:thumbup:

 

[Blues]

Ray's a great guy, an excellent maker and a good friend. You done good!

 

[Broos]

That is a beauty - the mammoth is really nice.

 

[STR]

Ray's a great guy, an excellent maker and a good friend. You done good!

Dito that to all.

I have one of those Scagel 52100 folders also and its a super little knife and a great performer. Actually its the whole reason I asked Ray to make me some more blades to customize myself because he really does 52100 up right.

Thanks for showing that beauty off. Its a gem with those scales on it. I have snakewood on my model.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72156&d=1179332104

 

[fewpop]

Beautiful knife, and terrific pictures. Those mammoth scales are striking. Thanks for sharing that one.

Ray is a gifted bladesmith, and a totally stand up guy.:thumbup:

 

[canineforge]

I like that a lot! Thanks for sharing. :thumbup:


- Joe

 

[Gramps]

Nice clean lines on this one.........VERY handsome. Congratulations on your new piece, and thanks for the great photos !

- Regards

 

[Bastid]

What all have said.

A Ray Kirk knife does make for an excellent week. Blues introduced me to Ray a few years ago before he got his J.S. stamp (or that weekend). I was so impressed with Ray and his work, I talked to him about his MS test dagger.

Having that in my collection means a lot to me, because of the type of man I met.

 

[mog555]

WOW I really really like that one. I'm a sucker for mammoth, and the Scagel pattern is something that just came onto my radar a several months ago. That is just plain perfect.

 

[brownshoe]

Looks nice, but screws in a scagle ain't for me. Just looks out of place. However, it's probably a compromise given the instability and expense of mammoth ivory.

Look at Jerry VanEizenga's scagles, 5 pins like they should be. Jerry's the one who wrote and sells the plans that Raker and others use.

 

[Mike Robuck]

Congrats, Muddy. That's a great looking knife.

 

[muddy672]

Thanks for the comments everyone!

brownshoe, re the screws, I prefer them over the pins, it's personal preference. I really like some of the Scagel style knives (folders and fixed) though I am not concerned about complete accuracy with the design. This is no disrespect to Mr Scagel or his designs, again just personal preference.

Mr. Kirk does make these folders with pins as shown below.

http://www.rakerknives.com/scagel_style_folders.htm

I have seen the traditional 5 pin design on some actual Scagel folders. It certainly would not stop me from buying this style of knife (3 pins, 5 pins, screws) though I prefer the simplicity of the 2 screws over multiple pins and I requested screws on my current order from Ray.

Thanks for your comments, it's great to get other view points and to discuss them.

 

[muddy672]

Here's the 5 pin:

http://www.legendaryknifemakers.com/knives/Customs/scagelwilliam/CustomHandmade/SCAGELFOLDER.php

 

[STR]

Funny. I count six pins in that Scagel.

STR

 

[Thomason]

Muddy, that mammoth looks great on this model from Ray. Here is one in California buckeye burl. Ray's Scagel reproduction is an excellent knife at an excellent price from an excellent maker.

 

[JAlexander]

You're killing me, Muddy. I've got one of Ray's Scagel folders on order, and now I really can't wait.

Seriously, though... That's a beautiful knife.

James

 

[STR]

All these great pics wanted me to get some better pics out of mine. Here is my snake wood Scagel Repro by Ray with I guess what you guys can expect to see in the way of a patina (helped a little to even it out once it started) when you start using it to slice your pears, apples, and meats besides wood whittling and carving like I do with mine all the time. This knife always performs. Its the epitomy of peformance over hype in a folder design that was purely functional to begin with. I think the hammer forged blade by Ray just makes it that much closer to what a real Scagel must have been like to use.

STR

 

[brownshoe]

6 pins per side for two blades...5 pins for one blade. Needs an extra pin because of the extra pivot. Actually, I think it's 8 and 7 pins, since two pins are for scales and are repeated on the other side, but you see 5 pins on each side.

To me the beauty of the basic scagel is not only the simplicity of the design and construction methods, but the use of common materials that cost virtually nothing. When you start using more than found handle material (i.e. bone and antler), simple brass pins, and steel liners, you don't really have the basic simple scagle anymore. But that's OK

 

[muddy672]

STR, really like the Snakewood with the Patina'd blade!!! I saw your knife while doing a search a few weeks back, these pics show it off much better!

brownshoe, I totally see where you are coming from. I've asked Ray to do one for me with Stag scales and his 52100 blade ... it'll still have the screws though. Do you have any original Scagels or pics of them? Post them up if you do.