Some fellas make nice looking knives. Some guys make knives that cut real well. Ray does both. He has it down pat. And being your typical Okie, he's a damn nice guy to boot. Referring to the topic in Jerry's last post. The cutting competitions that go on, while in good fun, really have a serious edge to them.On one side the guys and gals that compete get to see how their knife actually performs on different tasks, plus observing how the other knives do on the same task. Close attention is paid to edge geometry,blade profiles,and technique. Everyone sees things that they think will make their blade into a super cutter. Sometimes it's the small subtle things that really make a big difference.Sometimes what doesn't work teaches us as much as what does work. From each competition to the next we see a constant evolving of edge geometry,blade shapes and techniques. It is scary just how well some these blades will cut. You really have to see it to appreciate it.On the other side it is a great thing for Jerry and I also. The tasks at each competition are performed by me or Jerry beforehand. We figure it would be unfair to ask the competitors to cut something we can't do ourselves. It keeps us humping, we try to find that impossible cut to make, to push our blades and technique to the limits. Then some one at the contest makes it look easy. So we go back to the drawing board. We try harder, they get better, it's great. As a learning tool everyone involved benefits. Oh yes, contrary to the rumors circulating around about the cutting competition,Jerry and I are not sadists. It is much darker and deeper than that.