Ray Mears is coming to Ontario.

If it's public land, I suppose you could feign ignorance and crash the party a couple of times.
Noody "Oops. Didn't see you guys there. Say, aren't you that guy from TV? Oh my God! You're that guy from that survivor show! Your Bear Grylls! Your the best ever!"
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I hate to say it - but I would LOVE to attend this course. I can't imagine how much you would learn - but I have learned so much from Ray by just watching his video's.

Call me whatever - but the guy is one of my hero's. I think there are a lot worse hero's to have these days.

TF
 
I shouldn't think there is much doubt about the general usefulness of the course, talf - just looks like many loots :D
 
Talfuchre said:
I hate to say it - but I would LOVE to attend this course. I can't imagine how much you would learn - but I have learned so much from Ray by just watching his video's.

Call me whatever - but the guy is one of my hero's. I think there are a lot worse hero's to have these days.
I agree with this. I mean yes he's famous and I'm sure that's a main reason for the high cost but he also knows more about bushcraft than I could ever hope to learn.
Now if it's just a basics course then it probably wouldn't be worth it unless you just wanted to say you were taught by Ray Mears, any decent instructer could teach the basics, but if it's more of an advanced course then I'd imagine you'd get more out of it being taught by Ray and if you have the money to spare then I'd say it'd probably be worth it. I know some people spend similar amounts on knives and other bushcraft gear so why not actually learn something? If anything it would be a good experience.

That said I can't afford it. :o
 
This course does seem rather disproportionately priced, and I do wonder what exactly it is people think they would gain from it that requires that kind of expenditure. I say disproportionately not merely because I have been hot air balloon racing over the pyramids for that money, or that I can get fifteen days driving huskies across the Yukon for that, or that I can get a bucket all in snow extravaganza with vehicles, dogs, guides, lodges and return air fare to Finland for that and still £500 left for trinkets. No, I say that in the context of his own courses:......................................................His Fundamental Course, the box standard rub two sticks together and burn something on a twig over a fire type thing, is pegged at £650. His Applied Bushcraft, where you get to roam about a bit for a week and learn to put a roof up too, goes for £650 too. A week of tracking is £550. Wilderness Navigation or a week's worth of basic orienteering skills by any other name is £600. Even the six day Wilderness Emergency Medic level 2 is £650...…...............................................On that, I am wondering what could possibly be in this course that makes it worth nearly quadruple the regular price range. I don't doubt there could be novel information packets, gems if you will, but how much of it is just going to be basic stuff many people here are clearly already adept at. I didn't see anything saying “advanced” so I figure I probably will pander to n00bs too as there doesn't seem to be a screening process. The holiday itself might not be expensive but if you come back having learned four shortcuts to something you could do already, or would gladly circumvent , at a grand each that's expensive. It's not like rubbing against Mears is suddenly going to instil in you an indelible lexicon of every wild edible in the location or something. When you add that I read an account of him delivering a seminar earlier this year at which all recording and photograph taking was prohibited then you may well be better of with an encyclopedia at YOMP.................................The final nail in what I perceive a hideously disproportionate cost/benefits model also arises in the context of stuff he does elsewhere. He puts on a “Heroes of Telemark” course for only a bit more than this. It promises to take a non-skier and in six days train them to a competency to be able to retrace the route supported with accommodation, feeding, showers, all that. From there you snowmobile up to a to a cabin in the snow to spend two nights as the saboteurs did. The next five days is spent skiing the route and the last two nights on a warm down at accommodation with bistro. I might be missing something but this seems so much bigger of an experience than gathered in a field with a clutter of folk, mebe n00bs, and a notebook hoping for scraps. And I don't think celebrity alone can be the explanation. After all, next year he will be instructing in conjunction with Lars Falt at their Arctic Survival in Lapland course and without listing the itinerary that appears a much bigger undertaking too, yet only costs a little bit more......................Anyway, headscratcher......................YMWV
 
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Honestly, I'm not surprised he charges that much.
Bottom line: you don't pay only for what he can teach you, you mostly pay for being tough by Ray Mears.
The price tag it's quite relative actually - as I'm sure there are people that will attend his class without thinking too much about 3k.
The guy is at the top of his game - he's famous and he's cashin' in.
He's a brand name - and he's not to be afforded by everyone..

It's interesting to observe how far this "bushcraf" movement got....I doubt 10-15 years ago to many people would drop coin on a class like this.
To me, Bushcraft/ woodcraft is about getting out with minimal gear and enjoying the nature.
"Expensive" was never part of the game......Times they are a-Changin'?
 
Paraphrasing what was already mentioned, this would be considered an 'investment' for an instructor... And if you think this is expensive, you should see what guest speakers make. If interested, here is one example and you can do a quick search by fee range. This is generally for a couple hours of speaking and 2 or 3 days of travel... http://www.washingtonspeakers.com/

Coverting the schools $3,500 Canadian x 25 to U.S. Dollars is just over $84K. It is "only" 54K British Pounds. School gets their cut, food, lodging(?), course prep, Mears international travel (which is more than a week of his time), healthy income tax of which I bet Mears is in the 40%+ range in Britain... Not that I am going, but I have no problem with what they are charging. The free market will determine if it is too much and I suspect it is not.
 
It's interesting to observe how far this "bushcraf" movement got....I doubt 10-15 years ago to many people would drop coin on a class like this.
I've sen same thing about the knife.
Back in 2005, I hadn't heard about RM before I bought one of his book. Then I visited his website. I saw the Alan Wood woodlore knife that was in stock for about £200. I pondered about buying it and the decided that "screw it, it's nice but I won't pay that much for a knife".
Now the knife is sold for £450... with a freakin' 10 years waiting list.
 
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