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For those in Michigan, carrying a concealed knife with a blade of over three (3) inches, except "a hunting knife, adapted and carried as such", is a FELONY!

Just thought you should know.

Michigan Concealed Weapons Law
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http://www.michiganlegislature.org/law/GetObject.asp?objName=750 -227&queryid=849333&highlight=dangerous+weapon
THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE (EXCERPT)


Act 328 of 1931

750.227 Concealed weapons; carrying; penalty. [M.S.A. 28.424 ]
Sec. 227. (1) A person shall not carry a dagger, dirk, stiletto, a double-edged nonfolding stabbing instrument of any length, or any other dangerous weapon , except a hunting knife adapted and carried as such, concealed on or about his or her person, or whether concealed or otherwise in any vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business or on other land possessed by the person.

(2) A person shall not carry a pistol concealed on or about his or her person, or, whether concealed or otherwise, in a vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, without a license to carry the pistol as provided by law and if licensed, shall not carry the pistol in a place or manner inconsistent with any restrictions upon such license.

(3) A person who violates this section is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or by a fine of not more than $2,500.00.


History: 1931, Act 328, Eff. Sept. 18, 1931 ;--CL 1948, 750.227 ;--Am. 1973, Act 206, Eff. Mar. 29, 1974 ;--Am. 1986, Act 8, Eff. July 1, 1986 .

Constitutionality: The double jeopardy protection against multiple punishment for the same offense is a restriction on a court's ability to impose punishment in excess of that intended by the Legislature, not a limit on the Legislature's power to define crime and fix punishment. People v. Sturgis, 427 Mich. 392, 397 N.W.2d 783 (1986).

Former Law: See section 5 of Act 372 of 1927, being CL 1929, § 16753.


Dangerous weapon defined:
from
http://www.michiganlegislature.org/law/GetObject.asp?objName=38 0-1313&queryid=849333&highlight=dangerous+weapon

THE REVISED SCHOOL CODE (EXCERPT)


Act 451 of 1976

380.1313 Dangerous weapon found in possession of pupil; report; confiscation by school official; determination of legal owner; “ dangerous weapon ” defined. [M.S.A. 15.41313 ]
Sec. 1313. (1) If a dangerous weapon is found in the possession of a pupil while the pupil is in attendance at school or a school activity or while the pupil is enroute to or from school on a school bus, the superintendent of the school district or intermediate school district, or his or her designee, immediately shall report that finding to the pupil's parent or legal guardian and the local law enforcement agency.

(2) If a school official finds that a dangerous weapon is in the possession of a pupil as described in subsection (1), the school official may confiscate the dangerous weapon or shall request a law enforcement agency to respond as soon as possible and to confiscate the dangerous weapon . If a school official confiscates a dangerous weapon under this subsection, the school official shall give the dangerous weapon to a law enforcement agency and shall not release the dangerous weapon to any other person, including the legal owner of the dangerous weapon . A school official who complies in good faith with this section is not civilly or criminally liable for that compliance.

(3) A law enforcement agency that takes possession of a dangerous weapon under subsection (2) shall check all available local and state stolen weapon and stolen property files and the national crime information center stolen gun and property files to determine the legal owner of the dangerous weapon . If the dangerous weapon is a pistol, the law enforcement agency also shall check the state pistol registration records to determine the legal owner. If the law enforcement agency is able to determine the legal owner of the dangerous weapon , and if the legal owner did not knowingly provide the dangerous weapon to the pupil or lawfully provided the dangerous weapon to the pupil but did not know or have reason to know that the pupil would possess the dangerous weapon while in attendance at school or a school activity or while en route to or from school on a school bus, the law enforcement agency shall send by certified mail to the legal owner a notice that the agency is in possession of the dangerous weapon and that the legal owner has 90 days from receipt of the notice to claim the dangerous weapon .

(4) As used in this section, “ dangerous weapon ” means a firearm, dagger, dirk, stiletto, knife with a blade over 3 inches in length, pocket knife opened by a mechanical device, iron bar, or brass knuckles.

~Whirlwind~

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chad234

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Geeze, I carry knives over 3" all the time. Even into a police station every day. I'm glad I haven't gotten caught.
hehehehe. Low pay, hours stink, exposed to danger and hostility..... but I get to carry just about anything I want. I'll take that trade. (at least for another 6 years
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Take care, be safe and keep a low profile. Especially in MI.
Chad

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by chad234:
Geeze, I carry knives over 3" all the time. Even into a police station every day. I'm glad I haven't gotten caught.
hehehehe. Low pay, hours stink, exposed to danger and hostility..... but I get to carry just about anything I want. I'll take that trade. (at least for another 6 years
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Take care, be safe and keep a low profile. Especially in MI.
Chad

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Jim March

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If you're in MI, you need to call your state legislators, especially your state Senators, and urge them to vote in favor of the CCW bill in progress. Call the governor too. This is NOT a drill - scoring "shall-issue" CCW is your best defense against these dumb knife laws because if you score a legal gun carry permit, it's very unlikely you'd ever get popped for knife carry, unless you get really radical about it (canesword or whatever).

Shall-issue CCW will also be a good stepping-stone to cleaning up other weapons laws later.

Also, go to http://www.mcrgo.org and get the latest updates on the CCW bill status. Once there, consider subscribing to the MCRGO mailing list. Get involved. People keep telling me over on politics to flee California because socialist stupidity is too deeply embedded...but the reason it happened was that too many pro-freedom people sat and did nothing as the cancer spread.

Don't let it happen to you!!!

Jim
 
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Ok. I'll be sending them hand-written letters.

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