Real or fake original PM?

navyma2 · Dec 25, 2017

I realize this question has been asked before about Spyderco knives, but I have a knife I just bought and have never seen one like it. I’m interested in the jimping in particular. I want to sell or trade it but don’t want to pass a fake off to anyone.

Opinions, please . . .

Sergeua · Dec 25, 2017

Looks like good spyderco g10. I vote real

firefighterguy · Dec 25, 2017

Jimping, choil, clip and the blade all look different than my pm2. I have no idea if that could be a prototype or something but it looks much different than what’s currently being produced.

dkb45 · Dec 25, 2017

firefighterguy said:
Jimping, choil, clip and the blade all look different than my pm2. I have no idea if that could be a prototype or something but it looks much different than what’s currently being produced.

It's a Paramilitary, not a Paramilitary 2. That's why it's so different. As for if this is original or not, can't say. I just know it's a Paramilitary not 2.

Mountain Mike · Dec 25, 2017

Fake! Box, clip, jimping, the way the tang of the blade protrudes from the scales when closed. Sorry man.

Mountain Mike · Dec 25, 2017

dkb45 said:
It's a Paramilitary, not a Paramilitary 2. That's why it's so different. As for if this is original or not, can't say. I just know it's a Paramilitary not 2.

Learn something new everyday! Definitely no 2.

Mountain Mike · Dec 25, 2017

Did the original para have s30v?

Mountain Mike · Dec 25, 2017

Answered my own question. Looked up a pic on spyderco's website. Looks to be legit!

navyma2 · Dec 25, 2017

Mountain Mike said:
Answered my own question. Looked up a pic on spyderco's website. Looks to be legit!

So you don’t believe it is fake after all?

Mountain Mike · Dec 25, 2017

dkb45 is correct. I jumped the gun thinking you were asking about a para 2. From you pictures I'd say it's an original paramilitary. Never owned an original version. It's been over a decade since I saw a picture of one. Lol!

bearfacedkiller · Dec 25, 2017

I think it is real. Having the Phillips head screws and the Dino jimping means it is an early one.

I have the D2 sprint run which has the fine jimping and torx screws.

Kreyzhorse · Dec 25, 2017

Looks like a Paramilitary to me but I question S30V. Did early paramilitary have S30V?

bearfacedkiller · Dec 25, 2017

Yes, the original Paramilitaries came out in 2004 and were made until 2010 and they all had S30V except for the d2 sprint run.

lambertiana · Dec 25, 2017

It looks just like my PM that I got late 2005/early 2006.

skyhorse · Dec 26, 2017

You can't be too careful with Spyderco knives nowadays, it seems they've become more popular with counterfeiters than a Rolex watch.

singularity35 · Dec 26, 2017

Looks legit to me. I have two of the original paramilitary. Yep, they were s30v.

Kreyzhorse · Dec 26, 2017

The mob has spoken, looks like the OP can rest easy with his new old PM.

91bravo · Dec 26, 2017

That looks like a legit Paramilitary to me...

19-3ben · Dec 26, 2017

skyhorse said:
You can't be too careful with Spyderco knives nowadays, it seems they've become more popular with counterfeiters than a Rolex watch.

I was wondering about this. The PM2 is cloned probably more than any other knife in history, but are there issues with original PM clones? It seems to me that discontinued knives, and less common models seem fairly safe from cloning.

skyhorse · Dec 26, 2017

19-3ben said:
I was wondering about this. The PM2 is cloned probably more than any other knife in history, but are there issues with original PM clones? It seems to me that discontinued knives, and less common models seem fairly safe from cloning.

Yes, I'd say you are correct. Unlikely the original Paramilitary would be a counterfeit but to be honest I'm not really sure when the wide spread counterfeiting of Spyderco knives actually began or with what models? I do recall Sal Glesser stating there was a point when it severely damaged his business.