Realizing a SAK IS traditional has helped

My Pioneer has been an alternate carry to my Spartan that accompanies my Executive, but I’m planning on making the Pioneer the Executive’s main companion in my EDC. I’ve been using an eyeglass screwdriver kit that tightens the eyeglass screws better than the little mini-driver that lives in my Spartan’s corkscrew; it has a longer handle, which gives more leverage in use. The mini-screwdriver was the main reason I carried the Spartan more than the Pioneer. I think I’ll let the Spartan take a rest for now and concentrate on the Pioneer with the Executive.

Jim

Ain't nothing to knock in that partnership. For close on 20 years my dynamic duo was the classic and Wenger SI. Then it was the executive and SI.

But the last year now has seen my fall in love with the garden knife. It handles the heavier cutting jobs the executive (AKA the CYS knife) can't deal with. If I need more tool drivers the Victorinox quatro and P-38 in my wallet make up for the opener layer of the old SI.

I think that sometimes SAK's, as good as they are, get even better when teamed up. Like a nice K frame S&W .357 revolver with a Marlin 1894 .357 carbine. Covers a lot of bases with a minimum.
 
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My CYS knife’s first fishing trip.
 
Thanks to this thread, I’m thoroughly enjoying carrying and using my Executive. Rethinking my knife craze years, even. I appreciate your down to earth wisdom and sensibility, Jackknife. Thanks.

Being off work until who knows when, I’m finding the Executive the perfect knife. I still like others to accompany, but it’s a fine knife. I kind of want an Ambassador now. Anyway, I whittled today with the Spartan mod, the Manager, and Executive. Very enjoyable. Here are a couple pics. Cross your eyes for the double pic for 3D.

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Was reading Tom Sawyer to my son this afternoon. I decided to slip a Barlow in my pocket. Lasted a couple hours before I had to replace with my Executive. Of all things I actually missed the small blade to cut open some plastic flower containers to plant my mom’s Mother’s Day gift.
 
Those small blades are the cats pyjamas . Dont tell Cold Steel , but you can be happy with less than 2 inches of blade :D

Ha. They can reach into tight quarters and slice away. Despite it’s diminutive size, it can even tear down cardboard boxes just fine.
 
Was reading Tom Sawyer to my son this afternoon. I decided to slip a Barlow in my pocket. Lasted a couple hours before I had to replace with my Executive. Of all things I actually missed the small blade to cut open some plastic flower containers to plant my mom’s Mother’s Day gift.

For some odd reason, the small blade in my executive is the one I use the most. It opens my mail, breaks down boxes for the recycle bin, opens all kinds of plastic blister packages, cuts twine, and sharpens my pencil. The longer blade gets used for some food duty when out and about, and a few things here and there. The small classic style blade with the bigger handle of the executive gives great control in tight space cutting.
 
Those small blades are the cats pyjamas . Dont tell Cold Steel , but you can be happy with less than 2 inches of blade :D

I always like to use the example of how much real world work the one inch blade of a utility knife does. Theres more of the so called 'hard use' cutting done by Stanley, Husky, Milwaukee, and cheap clones of the utility knives than all the over built and over hyped tacticool knives sold. Just one inch of a razor thin blade to cut drywall, strip cable, open all kinds of building supplies.

Lots of real world cutting done by utility knives and box cutters.
 
Do you think larger knives are so popular now in part due to pocket clips? I think they make carrying a big knife so comfortable that many people forget how little knife they actually need. Sometimes even the main blade on my Pioneer models is more than I need, which is why I love my Rancher with its little hawkbill.
 
When I lived overseas in Taiwan for many years and only had my Spartan for an EDC knife, I generally used the smaller blade more often than the larger one. I used the larger one more for fruit, or stuff like that.

I use the main knife blade on my Executive less than the other implements. The tiny blade gets used more than the larger one.

Jim
 
Do you think larger knives are so popular now in part due to pocket clips? I think they make carrying a big knife so comfortable that many people forget how little knife they actually need. Sometimes even the main blade on my Pioneer models is more than I need, which is why I love my Rancher with its little hawkbill.

No, the pocket clip was just one of the factors. What happened was a dying knife industry was desperate, and a decent idea was grabbed and run with. What really happened was a humongous shift in American society that changed whole markets and the way we live.

Once we had over a hundred big knife companies in the U.S. like Kinfolks, Pal, Western, Utica, Imperial, Robeson, Schrade-Walden, Camillus, and others. But the post WW2 era saw a giant migration from rural to urban life. All those GI's coming home from saving the world didn't go back to the family farm or small town Mayberry RFD. An unprecedented number of young men who were trained by the armed forces in everything from Aircraft maintenance to welding to electricians to construction to medics all were not about to go back to milking the cows or getting the soy beans in from the back 40. They got jobs in the city and went for a more affluent life than they ever imagined before the war. This was the most massive migration of people in history. It gave rise to the whole new phenomenon of the tract home. Suburbia. Then there was the GI loans and GI bill's for home loans at low interest and schools for the returning GI's, sailors, and Marines. More people went to work in offices and wore suits than before. The need for much of a pocketknife shrunk massively. From 1945 to 1965, the face of the American landscape radically changed.

By the 1980's the dawn of the computer age was on the horizon and the office cubicle became more the norm than getting those soy beans in from the back 40. Even the blue collar jobs were mostly in the city. Delivery truck drivers, gas station mechanics, contraction workers, appliance repair, dry cleaning plant workers and managers, warehouse workers. The American dream of a the little house wth the white picket fence and new car in the driveway became real. Not much knife was needed for the new life in modern post war suburbia. By the 1980's pocket knife sales were down like the market had fallen off a cliff, and in a way it had. Are from hunting and fishing, and some camping, the majority of people didn't even bother to carry a knife anymore. Most of the big American knife companies were gone by this time, and the few left were staggering on the ropes.

Then a young guy named Sal Glesser had an idea. He combined the pocket clip with a hole in the blade and it created a sensation. The onehand thumb open knife was born, and like most new things it took off. By the 1990's other companies had jumped on the bandwagon and had one hand locking blade knives on the market. It was like the birth of pre sliced bread. In ten years, Schrade, Camillus and the others were gone, names sole off to Chinese companies. Of all the old knife companies, Victorinox survived only by being a nitch the others couldn't fill; the multitool.

By a lot of P.R. and hype, these new companies convinced the new generation of knife buyers that they were goners if they didn't have the latest greatest one hand opening knife with the latest super steel. And the elephant in the room is, a hell of a lot of the appeal of the new age "tacticool" knife is as a weapon. As I've seen it in print in the general forum many times the "in case someone gets on me" syndrome. You have knife manufactures pushing knives by showing them stuck through car doors, or advertised as being able to "De-animate enemy sentries" and other such idiocy. The modern knife market is for very impressionable young men who watch too much Rambo movies.
 
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It is sad that the pocketknife industry had suffered such a drop off. I always seem to come along at the tail end of things. I started carrying a pocketknife in the late 1970s in junior high (middle school nowadays), when many other boys, as well as many male teachers, still carried pocketknives to school. Not as weapons, but because it was a part of life.

Now, I really like Spyderco knives. I do. And I usually carry one daily, along with my two trusty SAKs. The SAKs generally see more use on a typical day than the Spyderco, but there are some cutting jobs that are a bit beyond the SAKs, or just better done with my Spyderco. But for me, the purpose I carry it for is not weapon-related, but because I have normal uses for it, and also because I like it. :)

Right now, IMO, as big as or even bigger than the clip knife is the multi-tool, especially the Leatherman type. SAKs Leatherman tools, etc., all have multiple uses that a knife-only folder (including traditionals like stockman, Barlow, trappers, 2-blade pen knives, etc.) do not. I see Leathermans on workmen’s belts all the time. And who knows how many people have a SAK or mini-Leatherman of some sort in their pockets? It’s still knife-related carry, and that’s still a good thing.

Jim
 
Hi shopdoc,

I'm a physician too, based north of Boston. I still have my Camillus Cub Scout knife from 1967, and I still use it after having it reconditioned by the talented folks at Rock USA Cutlery a few years ago. Like you, I happened upon Opinels and was mortified and stupified to find that, as slicers, they out-perform pretty much everything out there regardless of cost.

My current SAK's are the Cadet, Super Tinker, Classic SD and Rover. Cadet sees the most actual use but the Classic SD is always with me since it's on my car key ring.

Welcome & Regards..
 
Right now, IMO, as big as or even bigger than the clip knife is the multi-tool, especially the Leatherman type. SAKs Leatherman tools, etc., all have multiple uses that a knife-only folder (including traditionals like stockman, Barlow, trappers, 2-blade pen knives, etc.) do not. I see Leathermans on workmen’s belts all the time. And who knows how many people have a SAK or mini-Leatherman of some sort in their pockets? It’s still knife-related carry, and that’s still a good thing.

Jim
You're absolutely right.
In 1987, while in the Army, I got my very first Leatherman PST. Before that I had carried a Vic SAK.
It really was a game changer...and soon just about every soldier in the company was carrying one.
Now days I see multi-tools being carried by construction workers, day laborers, farmers, fishermen, hunters, mechanics, military personnel, law enforcement, etc...
 
Hi shopdoc,

I still have my Camillus Cub Scout knife from 1967, and I still use it after having it reconditioned by the talented folks at Rock USA Cutlery a few years ago.



I, too, can vouch for the high quality of Wallace Rockwell's (Rock USA) work on Victorinox Swiss Army knives. A few years ago he created and installed stainless steel scales to replace the original ALOX on a couple of models, with very nice results.
 
I don't know if you're up to it but if you take a SAK Ranger you can grind off the curve of the blade and you have in essence an Electrician without the wire scraper. I've been rather tempted myself for the same reason.

I know this is little late but I think you meant the Rancher , not Ranger. I did this to my Rancher, works great!
 
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