Reasonable Tactical Pen Evaluation

hardheart said:
I don't think I've ever seen any ad copy that says these things can stab, and I doubt they do any better than any other pen; the rollerball/nib/writey portion is about as fine as the ends of the aluminum bodies. I think it'll take new legislation or amendments to definitions to make possession of these things a problem. Of course, there's a lot of ways to interpret existing law, you could be screwed for carrying nail clippers.
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Funny in that the lowest key Tacti-pen. The Fred Perrin Concepts Defensive Pen. Is the only one that I have seen that implys anything about stabing or cutting. From Fred Perrin Concepts Defensive Pen
Remove the cap, and due to the acute angle of the cap, you have a DNA sampler. Of course, you can always use it to jot down a note as well. ;)
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From the look of it the Stainless Benchmade would puncture soft tissue. If not a touch up could sharpen it so it would
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So do these Elishewitz pens
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But at $650 a pop are tad over priced IMO
 
Wonder if TSA would notice that the pen cartridge says Benchmade KNIFE Company?

Anybody wanna volunteer to find out?
 
symphonyincminor said:
Maybe if you end up stabbing it into the ribcage of an advancing homeless guy just looking for some pocket change?

... he snuck up on me and I knew exactly what he wanted: not a couple of dollars for a sixer of Natural Ice, but my life. My overly paranoid brain reverted to survival mode and I unclipped my Tactical Pen from my trenchcoat pocket with a *snap* and dug it deep into his abdomen. He died instantly. One less scumbag to harass upstanding, hard-working citizens like myself on the streets...
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I know the year is still young, but I nominate this for the best mean spirited obscure mocking reference of the year.
 
guys, I don't think this pen will cure ED

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personally, I don't think the name on the pen affects it's lethality or weapon status.

I had forgotten about that Perrin pen... I always wondered if that's just some generic pen he saw and figured would work because of the cap design. Using the cap alone like that doesn't seem all that secure or intended in the overall build.

I figure a Rotring 600 is as dangerous as anything else meant for writing.
 
I own, and sometimes carry, the CS Sharkie (predecessor to the Pocket Shark). I'm NOT a martial artist, so have no illusions about using it to defend myself valiantly in a dark alley, but it does make a nice fistload and sticks out pretty far on either side of my hand, so could be used to strike with the ends. I carry a 2xAA maglite for the same reasons. I live in a pretty nasty city, figured it could give me an edge (since I can't carry a sharp edge).

Would think it would be ok for finger locks, etc, if you know how to do that. I don't.

Passable as a permanent marker (but quite a bit bigger than a sharpie and round, so will not be mistaken for one), very sturdy construction. Cheap enough to not worry about losing it. Might want to sand the markings off it.
 
3Guardsmen said:
Do you have anything productive to add to the discussion on evaluating tactical pens, or are YOU just here to troll?
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I apologize, 3Guardsmen. I misunderstood the spirit in which you started this thread.

In hopes that this post is productive, it's my belief that "tactical" pens tend to have more lateral strength and shatter resistance (and, sometimes, more mass) than regular pens while not doing anything particularly better than a regular pen. Pretty much a Fisher Space Pen with a harder exterior and higher pricetag.
 
10-4, Thom, and thank you for the apology. The reason I titled the thread the way I did is because I didn't want anybody to feel that their input wouldn't be welcomed.

Regards,
3G
 
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http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12020.php said:
(24) As used in this section, a "dirk" or "dagger" means a knife or other instrument with or without a handguard that is capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death. A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that is not prohibited by Section 653k, or a pocketknife is capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position.
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That language is kind of standard and copied into many different state and local statutes. Even if the ad copy doesn't directly say "stab", I'd not want to try to pass through security with one when you can do the same things with a regular pen and w/o the felony risk.

To test one, I'd use it, if it survives a few strikes and doesn't break and injure the user, I'd say it'd be good to go. What to stab would be the question, probably start with meat covered with thick denim, then leather and work up to concrete, 'cause a skull is hard.
 
I guess it's just me. Looking at the BM, Timberline, Mil-tac, and KZ(?), none of the points on the pen bodies look any finer than the actual writing tip. If you can stab just as easily with the point of a Bic, I would argue til I'm blue in the face about them being stabbing instruments on the order of a pointed knife. It wouldn't be that hard to make someone bleed with a sharpened pencil, but those are probably not included in the definition.

These look like impact tools to me, and I would imagine are designed for striking and pressure application, not stabbing.
 
what about a Fisher Trekker? it's only $20, and it comes with a lanyard, a carbiner and a split ring in the locking cap. basically, it looks like a keychain kubotan that writes. seems like the best of both worlds to me... anyone have any experience?

i left my paracord/gorilla glue kubotan in Ohio over the holidays, so i'm in the market for something new anyway... (the kubotan went through security without a hitch too!)
 
lvbuckeye27 said:
what about a Fisher Trekker? it's only $20, and it comes with a lanyard, a carbiner and a split ring in the locking cap. basically, it looks like a keychain kubotan that writes. seems like the best of both worlds to me... anyone have any experience?
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Yep, carried one on the job. Excellent pen. Very handy hanging around the neck. Never lost it because it was too short for anyone else to want to steal it and the cap hung from my neck. Much too short to use as a weapon. If you're looking at one in the package, subtract the cap from it's apparent length. It's pretty short. Not much longer than a refill cartridge.
 
shangchi108 said:
Yep, carried one on the job. Excellent pen. Very handy hanging around the neck. Never lost it because it was too short for anyone else to want to steal it and the cap hung from my neck. Much too short to use as a weapon. If you're looking at one in the package, subtract the cap from it's apparent length. It's pretty short. Not much longer than a refill cartridge.
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thank you very much.
 
Long.Rider said:
"Cartridge" hell, BENCHMADE on the clip
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I don't think the TSA will take apart my pen and chances are, they have no idea what Benchmade is and the butterfly will remove any suspicion. Besides, we're all assuming they're going to actually read this fine print to begin with.
 
My thoughts. Tactical pens are marketing bullshit. Its a friggin' aluminum bodied pen for frick sake! Any pen can be utilized for self defense in an emergencey. As many pens as people lose everyday they are an expensive piece of hardware with dubious utility and no better abilities as any decent pen on the market. Its proof that as Americans we will buy anything given the right marketing and when enough money is thrown at it...the last election is a good example.

We take you back to your regularly sheduled pissing for distance contest.
 
I think you would stand a better chance of getting one of them onto an airplane in your carry on bag than in your shirt pocket. I suspect that much metal would (or at least should) set off the metal detector. When that happens then you can be guaranteed that someone will personally handle your pen.

Under the x-ray, I would think it would look like any other radiologically opaque pen. They must see hundreds of those a day.

How to test one? Sharp Phil seemed to give a pretty good answer. It's supposed to be a pen used to stab people, so shouldn't you test it on meat? Buy a ham or beef roast and give it some really hard stabs to see how well the pen body holds up.

An interesting comparison would be to test a couple of 'tactical' pens against the typical metal-bodied pen from Fisher, Cross or Parker. Wonder if there would be any appreciable difference?
 
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