recommendations on a hard use/tactical folding knife!

o4tg said:
I think the 0350 would be a good choice. Having worked construction I'm surprised you want a frame lock. I have yet to meet anyone in real life that worked trades that didn't hate metal scaled knives on the job site. When it's -5 with a wind chill or 105 you really learn to appreciate the grippy, moisture wicking, and relatively temperature neutral attributes of G10.

Ask a corrections officer how shiv fights go down. It's not the guy with the razor that wins, it's the guy who gets the deep stabs. So I wouldn't worry about how good of a slasher a knife is in general for defense.

Assisted knives are a huge plus for defense. Lots of knife fight trainers who have never been in a real fight never the less a knife fight will have brand preferences, but assisted knives are as fool proof as you can get under stress outside of a fixed blade. Aside from neck knives at least. I will say they're about the worst defensive knife idea ever. Anyone who's been in physical confrontations knows in the time it takes to use both hands to reach in your shirt will be enough time for even the lankiest aggressor to land multiple punches, or stab wounds with no answer.

American tantos are far and away the best slashers you'll find by the way. I hated them for years but once I used one on the job I'll never go back. It just has to be one with straight angles, and not a curved upsweep. Think of it as having two tip points on the blade. You can demonstrate it with an easy test too. Set a phone book on a scale. Take your knife and put down 10 pounds of consistent as possible force and drag the knife across the phone book to cut it. Do it with the natural hand angle too. You want it to be in the front of the belly because just the tip (giggity) or the flat edge won't tell you as much. Repeat with the different blade grinds. It's not scientific, but with about 6 different knives I tested the American tanto was cutting about 50% deeper with the same amount of force. American tantos are like recurves with an exacto knife surgical tip.
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I have yet to meet anyone in real life that worked trades that didn't carry a cheap piece of schitt... No lie. I've never seen anybody on site who had anything better than a Coast or S&W, or something comparable.

You're dead on with the second paragraph. Cut people live, stabbed people die. Period. It's a fact.

Assisted knives are a huge plus for defense? No. Not even close. Hell, with some assisted opening knives I have to position my hand just right, find the flipper (or the stud), hold my tongue just right, etc., then flick it open.... And hope it opens all the way. Try doing that under duress.

The American tanto thing.... Eh, I've been thinking about it a while. Going over it in my head, remembering my experiences with them. I honestly don't know wether to call BS on that, or call you a genius.
 
ZT0562 gets my vote, and I have most of the models you're thinking about (all but the Benchmade 275).
 
o4tg said:
I think the 0350 would be a good choice. Having worked construction I'm surprised you want a frame lock. I have yet to meet anyone in real life that worked trades that didn't hate metal scaled knives on the job site. When it's -5 with a wind chill or 105 you really learn to appreciate the grippy, moisture wicking, and relatively temperature neutral attributes of G10.

Ask a corrections officer how shiv fights go down. It's not the guy with the razor that wins, it's the guy who gets the deep stabs. So I wouldn't worry about how good of a slasher a knife is in general for defense.
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Well ya met me lmao! Skate deck tape will give anything good grip if need be.
I don't need a slasher, I need a knife that will cut time after time and keep cutting. I don't mind metal handle knives. I wear gloves if outside in bad weather but I have more of a posh construction life style, I work in hospitals and big private companies, so not much outside anyway. I was actually a corrections officer for a few years, hated it! I saw two shiv fights, well one was with a razor and he won that day. I don't like tantos. Even though I have several tantos I still don't like them. They just don't cut it for me.
 
o4tg said:
I think the 0350 would be a good choice. Having worked construction I'm surprised you want a frame lock. I have yet to meet anyone in real life that worked trades that didn't hate metal scaled knives on the job site. When it's -5 with a wind chill or 105 you really learn to appreciate the grippy, moisture wicking, and relatively temperature neutral attributes of G10.
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I had a Spyderco Military I stopped carrying when I worked construction because grit used to get in between the locking liner and the g10 scale, switching to a frame lock (obviously) solved this problem.
 
JDunn709 said:
I had a Spyderco Military I stopped carrying when I worked construction because grit used to get in between the locking liner and the g10 scale, switching to a frame lock (obviously) solved this problem.
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Thank you jdunn709! That's a great reason! Plus I've had a ton of liner locks fail on me and I've never had a frame lock fail on me yet. I did say yet!
 
If you can swing the funds, check out the Three Sisters Forge Beast.
 
Fixxil said:
That's a good option thank you. How is the lock? Has it stayed sturdy and strong very well? Can the blade be deployed fast for a manual
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The lockup is rock-solid. I would expect it to stay that way. Very flickable with the Spydie-hole.
Hard to find anyone that would disagree with this as a hard-working, long-lasting folder. I gave one to a son-in-law who is an avid deer-hunter/fisherman in Pennsylvania woods, and he loves it. Says he can't wait to get his deer this year...
Yes, nice knife.
 
Sonnydaze said:
The lock up is rock-solid. I would expect it to stay that way. Very flickable with the Spydie-hole.
Hard to find anyone that would disagree with this as a hard-working, long-lasting folder. I gave one to a son-in-law who is an avid deer-hunter/fisherman in Pennsylvania woods, and he loves it. Says he can't wait to get his deer this year...
Yes, nice knife.
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Thank you! I will have to go check one out
 
AntDog said:
I have yet to meet anyone in real life that worked trades that didn't carry a cheap piece of schitt... No lie. I've never seen anybody on site who had anything better than a Coast or S&W, or something comparable.

You're dead on with the second paragraph. Cut people live, stabbed people die. Period. It's a fact.

Assisted knives are a huge plus for defense? No. Not even close. Hell, with some assisted opening knives I have to position my hand just right, find the flipper (or the stud), hold my tongue just right, etc., then flick it open.... And hope it opens all the way. Try doing that under duress.

The American tanto thing.... Eh, I've been thinking about it a while. Going over it in my head, remembering my experiences with them. I honestly don't know wether to call BS on that, or call you a genius.
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Oh yeah I've carried a lot cheap POS's and I'm tired of them. You its not about stabbing someone and killing them either... Its about ending a fight, stopping and attack. A cut, slice or slash is more than capable of doing just so. Correctional officers aren't SME's on knife fighting (nor am I). Some employ batter tactics and training depending on the institution they work. In your opinion Assisted knives are not good for you. I love them or a very fast flipper. That's why I train with my knives as I do firearms. That's why I have a lot of benchmades because I love the axis lock! They open so easy and anyway!
 
Yeah, I kinda hate CRKT as well. I suggested PM2, but there are a lot of good suggestions on here. The Zt's, and actually the Hogue looks like it has a bright future to me. They are relatively new, but since they teamed up with Allen Elishewitz a few years back, I think they have a good future in knives. I have a Hogue ex-f01 fixed blade, that thing is just friggin awesome. It came with one of the best sheaths ever too. I actually want to get a folder by Hogue now, they look like beasts.
 
SliCed said:
Yeah, I kinda hate CRKT as well. I suggested PM2, but there are a lot of good suggestions on here. The Zt's, and actually the Hogue looks like it has a bright future to me. They are relatively new, but since they teamed up with Allen Elishewitz a few years back, I think they have a good future in knives. I have a Hogue ex-f01 fixed blade, that thing is just friggin awesome. It came with one of the best sheaths ever too. I actually want to get a folder by Hogue now, they look like beasts.
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In regards to this, I mst say they are great knives, and both of the blade shapes they offer are very tough and durable. Either way you go on one, it'll do you good. The only slight down side to them is that their balanc is a bit weird, and rides in front of the main finger choil, so that takes some getting used to. They take a little work to get used to opening sometimes too, since they don't have any washers to ride on, and it's either steel-on-steel, or aluminum-on steel.
Once they're worked in, and as long as they're kept clean, they will take a beating though, especially in their G-mascus handles, or the alminum if you prefer that.
 
Fixxil said:
Yeah seriously I've destroyed them. I can't look at crkt knives anymore lol. I want to try a strider!!! I do take donations for that lmao ha ha!
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If you're ever able to afford it, and you feel brave enough to have someone do it, get a Strider (either SNG or SMF), and have someone grind the opening hole into a wave feature. Gives you the ability to stil open it normally, or, if need be, use the wave when pulling it from your pocket to deployy the blade. One of the best mods I've seen people do to Striders, though it does of course void their official warranty.
Like I said, if you ever have the cash and the guts, go for it.
 
Without a doubt...a plain Jane ordinary Strider SnG...

These folders are built like an Tank and backed up with an awesome warranty....
 
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