'Red tape' clarification?

Rust

Rust

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Not that it really counts as red tape, per se. I'm a little unclear on HI's delivery policy - is there or is there not a charge for delivery to Canada? If there is, then what is it?

Also, I take it that all prices are in US funds?

Finally, there aren't any 'issues' about big knives crossing the Canada/US border right now, are there?
 
No... there is no charge for delivery to Canada. The cost is factored into the cost of the item. Not the best way to do it because you end up paying duty and taxes for the price built into the total cost.

I've had no problems gettin' my khuks into Canada. However, the customs people tend to look into packages that contain fixed blade knives more often than other packages.

I called customs canada and they say they only have a problem with such things as throwing stars, sword canes and other illegal items.

Duty and taxes, what happened to free trade :(
 
Rusty, there should be no problem with getting big knives into Canada currently or in the near future. Canada customs is interested in knives that are illegal such as push daggers, switchblades, butterfly knives, etc. Note most of these are weapons oriented and concealable. If you are crossing the border with a large knife in the car, the customs officer may give you a hard time. You may need to provide a good explaination why you are taking it into Canada.

There is no duty charges on goods made in the USA and Canada. However, Canada customs will collect a federal sales tax (GST) and provincial sales tax (PST). In Ontario it is 7% and 8% respectively, and this is applied on the CDN $ value. Also, customs or the post office charges you for the privilage of collecting the tax, in Ontario it is 5 $CDN. Note, if you are lucky and the package is not taxed (often happens for items under 100 $CDN), you also do not have to pay the 5 $CDN and get your package in a week rather than 1.5 week. A duty may apply if the country of origin for H.I. khukuri's be know.

Customs has not always inspected the large fixed blades I have imported. For example my Mega Salyan was not taxed or openned (go figure). Custom puts a sticker on the tape to show that the package has been openned by them. Every folder I have imported has been examined by customs.

Coming up to visit Rust?

Will
 
Will,

I think you got me mixed up with the forum co-moderator. I've been using the handle "Rust" online since 1997, but only came to the cantina about last week.

I already am 'up', by the way, living on the Bruce Peninsula in Ontario.

In any case, thanks for the help everyone. I'll start saving my pennies now. Any reccommendations for a good starter blade, where domestic functionality and martial arts use are both factors? I'm leaning towards the 20" Sirupati, but I'm very open to opinions.
 
Originally posted by Rust
Any reccommendations for a good starter blade, where domestic functionality and martial arts use are both factors? I'm leaning towards the 20" Sirupati, but I'm very open to opinions.
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Rust if it was me I would start with the 21" Chitlang. It's not as robust a blade as the Sirupati, but then neither are the old WW II khukuris that saw action in many theatres in WW II.
The Chitlangi cuts like a larger khukuri so the performance is excellent. And with the double fullers, which give it more strength, it also is light for its size which would make it good for the M/A's.
I'm not into the M/A's but I have to say the Chitlangi's balance is/would be better for M/A.

If you want a more robust blade for a bit heavier work then go with the Sirupati, but I'm thinking with a little forethought to a chopping job the Chitlangi would come very close to it.

Can you tell I'm in love with this khukuri?;)
 
Yvsa,

You have me just about convinced about the Chitlangi, but I can't find in the HI website or online store. I gather this is one where I'll just have to keep a finger hovering over the 'send' button and watch the cantina if I want one?
 
Hehe... actually he's got me convinced too. I haven't got one yet either but Yvsa seems to know what he's talking about. The Chitlang isn't listed on the smoothsale site but you can e-mail uncle Bill and see if he has one around. The last I remember, he had one left. (the one that I was eventually gonna get :D)

If you happen to snag it first, I'll just have to find something else :D
 
It also depends on what martial art style you do. There's probably a piece of cutlery that is better for either slicing, chopping, piercing, etc. If you're in the Filipino arts, there's shorter items for the "dagger" hand or longer ones for the main weapon.

Some of these guys on this forum have at least one of each type. They can perhaps steer you on what you want depending on your preferences.



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Where's Harry? He's got one of everything and lives up North and knows everything about khukuris and customs.
 
Rust,

I did get you mixed up with Rusty.

I am planning to go deer hunting near Durham. It is quite close to Owen Sound. I don't know the exact hunting schedule but if you want to see some the H.I. khukuri's I can throw a couple in with my gear. In your neck of the woods the 18" WWII would be a good bet. Quite a few people think it is a useful size.

Go figure, we need to pay for the privilage of paying tax and it takes longer for stuff to be delivered due to that privilage.

Will
 
Originally posted by Rust
Yvsa,
You have me just about convinced about the Chitlangi, but I can't find in the HI website or online store. I gather this is one where I'll just have to keep a finger hovering over the 'send' button and watch the cantina if I want one?
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Rust if Uncle Bill doesn't have a Chitlangi in stock you can oder one by dropping him an e-mail.
Blues hasn't been around much lately due to job constraints but I'm thinking he feels the same way about the Chitlangi as I do.:)
I went to the last pic of the Chitlangi that I know about and put it here so you could see it again in case you had missed it.
And the Chitlangi also comes in an 18" model if the 21"+ model is a little to big for what you want.:)

Bro both the H.I.Website and Smoothsale links come up for me alright. But the Chitlangi isn't on either one of them that I could find.
I figured the Chitlangi might be posted on the "New for 2,000" page, but guess you haven't had time to put it up there as yet?

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Haven't had enough of them. I'm afraid to put them on the website or shopping site because we are barely keeping up. If I can get 3 or 4 extras I'll stick them up.

And many thanks for good help, all.
 
Will,

Owen Sound is my home town, and I still live about 15 minutes from it. I've been through Durham a number of times.

I may take you up on your offer another time, but right now taking that trip just for a gander at the knives isn't an expense I can justify. I do appreciate the offer, though.

Okay, I got two votes for the 21" Chitlangi, and one for the 18" WWII. Important factor here; what -is- the price of a 21" Chitlangi? More to the point, what's a guy in Ontario end up paying for one in $Cn.? The regulations and conversions are still making me slightly dizzy.
 
Bro I think Rust was wanting a price in Canadian Dollars if possible.:)
An e-mail to Rust might be in order with the shipping costs added on so Rust would know the total amount the khukuri would cost him, without the Canadian tax of course.:)

Or perhaps one of the other Canadian Forumites may be able to help Rust since they've had the experience?
 
The biggest hit you're going to take is the exchange rate. Somewhere around $0.60 Chretiens to one W. Bush. Everything else is done for you when you order. Your Visa card does the exchange rate and Canada Post calculates the government's share.

Basically you can calculate the cost by...

Exchange 60 cents kanadin per one US dollar

GST 7%
PST 7% (depending on your provence)

Duty: dunno how this is calculated. I paid 10 bux on my last order

Handling fee 5 bux

When the mailman comes with your package he will be holding out his other hand to collect the afore mentioned fees. Fairly simple. I worried about the same things when I did my first US order. As long as you can stomach the exchange rate it's really easy.
 
oh oh... I usually lowball the canadin dollar because it tends to flucuate. I think it's actually worth around 70 cents. But lowballing will ensure you have enough $$$ in the bank before you order something.
 
I'll give it a shot:

(145/.62*1.15) + 5 + 3.5

= 277.45 $CDN

Shocked? I am.

145 $US for the khukuri
0.62 $US/$CDN it is actually around 0.64 but who ever exchange it for you takes you for around 2 cents.
1.15 for taxes (7% GST and 8% PST)
5 $CDN for your privilage to pay taxes
3.50 for a money order (note only send money order to those you can trust as they are not secured). With credit card the credit card company will track down and prosecute abusers. This is not an issue with Uncle Bill.

Uncle Bill does not normally charge extra for shipping to Canada but it has been a while since I bought a khukuri so he will have to answer this.

That is assuming you pay by postal money order. The post office charges you 3.50 for the M.O. You might save yourself a bit with a credit card.

Best bet for a cheaper khukuri is to get a blem that is under 100 $CDN. Customs will often let such items through without collecting taxes. You will not even have to pay for the privilage of paying for taxes if they are not collected!

Best of luck.

Will
 
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