REKAT Carnivour...real nice, or pretender?

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Howling Moose

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O.K., all you "Carnivours"...give me your best opinion of this blade...worth a C note, or a "wanna-be?"

I GET THE DRIFT, KNIFE PRO'S! AND I'M BUY'N IT.

THANKS TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT.

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Definately worth a c-note. It is one of my favorite production knives. The ergonomics are second to none and the rolling lock is like a bank vault.

It is not the most beautiful knife out there but it is tough.

Here is an excellent review:http://bbs.ipass.net/~stringb/Carnivour.html

I will admit that mine wasn't very smooth when I first got it. I figure that is inherent to the rolling lock until it breaks in. Now mine is very smooth. Of course it took a little work to get it that way.

The stonewash finish rocks (pun intended). It looks good and hides any other scratches the knife gets in use.

I have heard a few people say the have experienced some vertical blade play, but I believe that is the exception not the rule. Ideally you could handle one before you purchase one.


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-Dennis


 
Great knife, no if ands or buts. Worth more than a C-note as I feel it's much better than it's competition

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
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Where can I find one for a C note?

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It's a hard working knife. So long as you don't expect it to be a some kind of nice, smooth custom, you'll won't be disappointed.

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Stronger than heck. Really good fighting design, OK utility design. Finish on REKAT knives has improved lately in my opinion. The REKAT Carnis I've seen I though finished about equivalent to a Benchmade of a couple of years ago. No more 60 grit grind marks in the primary bevels as on the early Pioneers. Considering the extra strength and reliability, and the lack of ambidexterosity (made that one up), it is still a comparable value to a Benchmade 710 or a Spydy Military in my opinion.
 
Absolutely positively, the carnivore is a woderfull utensile for your hard working projects, this a hard working knife. C note is a good start. Although a bit bulky for pocket wear, it melts in your hand like butter on a warm Kansas day. Check it Out. Thanks Darth Q.
 
Yep, what they said. Do yourself a favor when you get one and get Mike Sastre to make you a breakfront belt sheath for it. He made me one, and it's excellent for backcountry excursions while working when I expect to be suddenly chased in my car by the headless horseman on a Harley. I reach out my window and slash away, cutting nothing but the chilly night air... where's my Kahr K9. Damn, must've left it at the house. I might survive the night save making classic movie mistakes, like backing up slowly and turning around...

Uh, yep.
 
ambidexterosity - The qualities or physical attributes of an item which allow it to be more readily used in an ambidextrous manner.

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I do like the Carnivore, but judging from some folks experiences, you may have to play with a few and hand pick the sample you like best. I took mine apart and cleaned and lubed it because that is what I do. I'm a tinkerer. It did smooth out the intitial grittiness which probably would have improved on it's own.
 
CARNIVORE=GOOD. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one.

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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery


 
I had one for but a short while before my brother laid claim to it....He needs a good knife as he travels ALOT and I thought this one would do him well. I was not about to give up my Sebenza. HELL NO!
Now I am in search of another.

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*Abraham Lincoln

Romans 1:20-22




[This message has been edited by Scarman (edited 12 November 1999).]
 
Buy it . i paid $110.00 new from a member. I was carrying the Axis 710,but like the blade and feel of the handle on the Carnivour. And,although righthanded, this knife is easy to operate with the sliding lock lefthanded!
 
Sheer strength is not the issue, reliability is the issue.

I think the rolling lock is subject to failure from the slightest bit of debris.

The carnivour from from Crawford wasn't popular, and Syderco decided to pass on the lock.

I don't think we have the ultimate solution to folder design here.

Furthermore, highy articulated handles are only good if your hand happens to fit the design. Mine fits a mini KFF but not a large.

The blade design is actually very traditional Japanese and probably very effective.

But, the handle and the lock don't cut it for me.

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Ron Knight

Yeah I'm crazy, but what do you want me to do about it

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Ron,

>>I think the rolling lock is subject to failure from the slightest bit of debris.

The carnivour from from Crawford wasn't popular, and Syderco decided to pass on the lock.<<

Have you experienced this, or know someone who has? I think this is worth knowing about by those of us who carry a RL...

With respect to Crawford carnivore's popularity, has Pat mentioned problems with moving this item compared to his other products? Again, I am curious since I have the Crawford carnivore and like it alot.

My understanding of Spyderco and the RL situation is that the two sides could not reach an "agreement." I assume this is financial in nature and not related to the performance of the RL per se. I could be wrong. Sal -- any input on this?

sing

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I could easily be wrong about this.

AS for the RL I always had some distrust of the design which is based on the diagrams from Rekat and handling a Rekat. This was reinforced when a member did a mud test on a RL, leaf lock, and a lockback. While none of them functioned when packed with mud, as a little was washed off again and again they began to lockup, except for the RL which had to be flushed completely.

I watch the secondary market closely. And as a casual observation it seems that a lot of Crawford carnivours have shown up for sale or even new ones discounted.

As for Spyderco, I skipped over something in a thread that led me to believe that Spyderco passed due to their tests. I had not heard that the problem was the deal. But, gotta admit I could easily be wrong.

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Regards,
Ron Knight

Yeah I'm crazy, but what do you want me to do about it
 
Professor:

How do we get in contact with Mike Sastre for breakfront sheaths? Does he make them for knives other than the Carnivour?


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K. Williams
kel620@aol.com
Modern Arnis Student
 
Mike's e-mail is VideoSAS@aol.com
His company's name is River City Sheaths. I have been very impressed with Mike's work. I believe he can make a sheath for just about anything.

It was also my understanding that Spyderco didn't get the rolling lock because a financial agreement couldn't be reached. The rolling lock may not be perfect, but it is a step in the right direction. I don't believe any locking mechanism is without faults.

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-Dennis Bible
Knoxville, Tennessee

 
Well fellas,
Until tommorrow (who knows what tommorrow may bring?) the Axis and the Rolling locks are the strongest folder locks on the block.
Right now.

The RL has nudged out the Axis in sheer brute strength, however, the Axis gets the nod in the smoothness dept. off the shelf.
They are both hell-for-stout and both boast "stronger than the average bear" locking systems.
No use in picking them apart as they are state of the art right now and anything mechanical has flaws and/or shortcomings. Especially, folding knife locking systems. Sometimes the flaws and shortcomings are apparant, sometimes not.
But, as I stated above...who knows what tommorrow may bring?

RKnight,
Anywhere you find a folding knife, you will find problems with debris compromising the lock up. It's all a matter of degrees. Whether it's more debris or less, it's gonna mess up the locking ability of the knife. Until a foolproof system is designed, it's just the nature of the beast.
I except this challenge on a day to day basis as I carry mostly folders. Oh well...
Anyway, I understand that a new button lock system is out there and is a totally sealed unit.
Perhaps this is the answer to the problem of debris gum up.
Time will tell.


BTW, the Carnivour ROCKS!
Worth a C-note, easily.


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Rknight
For your information the cancellation of the Spyderco license for a Rolling Lock was REKATS decision on not wanting to business with Spyderco.
Bob Taylor

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