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I know this comes up often and the folks at Spyderco are probably tiered of hearing it but a good reminder never hurt no one.

We Need A Tip Up Capable Military!

Can you imagine a fluted titanium military in m390 with tip up carry?! Who am I kidding I would be happy with one in S30V.
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I've come to accept the Military as a right hand rear pocket/ left hand front pocket, blade to the pocket seam, tip down, carry knife. If you have to go one way, it's not a bad choice for a knife this size.
 
The Military's been around with only small changes since 1996. Hopefully we'll see a fully updated and modernized version soon, with variable carry among other things. Speaking as a lefty, I can't wait for that to happen.
 
Skywalker31 said:
The Military's been around with only small changes since 1996. Hopefully we'll see a fully updated and modernized version soon, with variable carry among other things. Speaking as a lefty, I can't wait for that to happen.
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I wouldn't hold count on it being soon. Last it was mentioned Sal said they hadn't started on it due to having too many other models, and it seems like they just keep coming out with more, not consolidating (not that I'm complaining). On the plus side, from the pictures in the stop lock patent, it looks like the plan is to have it function just like a back lock, so it will be ambidextrous.
 
jball1125 said:
I know this comes up often and the folks at Spyderco are probably tiered of hearing it but a good reminder never hurt no one.

We Need A Tip Up Capable Military!

Can you imagine a fluted titanium military in m390 with tip up carry?! Who am I kidding I would be happy with one in S30V.
:D
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BMLooker said:
It may cost $$$ but every knife should be capable of TU/TD, L/R carry. :)
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I disagree with both of these statements. I personally dislike the swiss cheese look provided by the four way option. On the Military, it will mean adding weight to extend the liners, and one of the most endearing traits of the Millie is the light weight. It would also mean changing the clip itself, from the graceful curve to a common hourglass. No thanks.
 
To each his own I guess, I personally would love a tip up military. I don't think the changes would be as drastic as you make them sound. I don't own any tip down only knives because I can't stand having a clip in the way of my grip. BTW if we stuck to the don't change what works philisophy we wouldn't have the great para 2
 
It'll definitely be heavier. Sal said they have to do full liners to do a four-way clip. The AFCK has full liners and is about the same size as the Military, but it's got to be about 6 oz. Those aren't nested liners, so I'm sure Spyderco could nest them and cut away some of the metal like they do with the Military's liner now, but it won't keep to the same weight.

Also, if the stop lock is kept to function like a mid back lock, the Mil2 won't have an open-back construction anymore.

Altogether, it will be quite a different knife. I won't say it'll be worse before it's even been designed, but from what's been said so far, it will be quite different.
 
I believe at this time, the best compromise for those completely sold on tip-up pocket clip carry are best off going with a Manix 2 XL.

The blade shape is different and maybe a bit shorter than the Military.
 
God intended most of us to carry tip up, as the thumb falls naturally on the Spydie hole as you deploy the knife. I carry my knife on my weak side, however, so tip down works best for me. I did go to church this morning, so I'm hoping that God will let this one slide.
 
jball1125 said:
BTW if we stuck to the don't change what works philisophy we wouldn't have the great para 2
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the para1 never had the success of the milie even being a more pocket and sheeple friendly size.

that's perhaps why they (successfully changed it)

before the para2 when one guy asked wich spidie to get the answer was 90% "get a milie". never "get a para". now that they successfully changed the para, it's the new star from golden ... but did those change to the para line make the milie obsolete ???? i don't think so.

imho 4 way will make it heavier, not a good idea when the main reason of it's success is it's light weight. 4 way will add a bunch of ugly holes in the handle, tip up will be a pain to deploy with such a long handle.

ambidextrous tip down is already possible ... actually i don't care about the extra holes in the handle etc ... what kills me is extending the liners to full handle length... just to accomodate a clip. i really don't think it's worth it. ymmv
 
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yablanowitz said:
I disagree with both of these statements. I personally dislike the swiss cheese look provided by the four way option. On the Military, it will mean adding weight to extend the liners, and one of the most endearing traits of the Millie is the light weight. It would also mean changing the clip itself, from the graceful curve to a common hourglass. No thanks.
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+1........:thumbup: :thumbup:

The Military model is not 'broken', or flawed, so there is no sense in fixing it. IMO, if someone wants to convert it to tip up, I say go for whatever works for them but leave the original model alone.
 
I understand the reservations but one sprint run with the tip up option couldn't hurt anyone. I'm sure they will sell like hot cakes, if they are a hit its a win win if not just keep it tip down on the next sprint run.
 
jball1125 said:
I understand the reservations but one sprint run with the tip up option couldn't hurt anyone. I'm sure they will sell like hot cakes, if they are a hit its a win win if not just keep it tip down on the next sprint run.
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That is easier said than done.
 
jball1125 said:
I understand the reservations but one sprint run with the tip up option couldn't hurt anyone. I'm sure they will sell like hot cakes, if they are a hit its a win win if not just keep it tip down on the next sprint run.
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Once again we have this. Suggest a Sprint Run that will require all new tooling. Commission it (i.e. pay for 600 pieces at whatever cost) and pay for that new tooling, or don't expect it to happen.
 
jball1125 said:
We Need A Tip Up Capable Military!
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That handle is so long that unless you do a wave modification you would have to operate it 2-handed. Most people would draw the knife and their thumb would only be half way down the handle, nowhere close to the hole. Maybe a few NBA stars could successfully operate it but I have very long hands and it would not work for me.
 
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