Removing Negative Feedback.. Why is there no recourse for malicous action?

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benchwarmer380 said:
You sure? If memory and deductive reasoning serves, post #3 was a different thread that was merged by rycen. Though I've been wrong before.
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You're 100% correct! I couldn't remember (it's been a while). But yes, you're correct. I forgot they were merged right away in the beginning. Doesn't really change much concerning where we are at now though.
 
I don't think threads disappear that quickly. Just the other day there was a necro thread from about 2001 or so.

I agree. People do understand. You have 5 positives iTrader Feedbacks since then and possible more positive transactions where feedback wasn't left. People have the information and will decide for themselves.

Spark and the mods do a pretty good job of running this madhouse IMO. Yea it sucks that it's there but this one little tarnish hasn't really diminished your reputation as others have still happily done business with you.

Enjoy the forums and life will work itself out.
 
I appreciate your input benchwarmer. But I want bladeforums to continue to improve and get better as a site and community.

The feedback system is a very big and messy part of this site. But the problems within need addressed sometime! Ignoring and moving on won't solve anything, and this thread would have been for nothing.

There is a tech support + Feedback forum page for a reason. Let's use it and improve!
 
Subietuner said:
I appreciate your input benchwarmer. But I want bladeforums to continue to improve and get better as a site and community.

The feedback system is a very big and messy part of this site. But the problems within need addressed sometime! Ignoring and moving on won't solve anything, and this thread would have been for nothing.

There is a tech support + Feedback forum page for a reason. Let's use it and improve!
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My pleasure.

We are all here because of a shared interest and love of knives and more.

With so many different types of people and personalities from all over the world problems are bound to occur from time to time.

The Tech Support and Feedback forums are here for a very good reason and I feel they serve their purpose.

Remember though, this is Spark's house which he owns and runs. He also has a family and a business that needs his attention as well.

Reread your original post. Even though you may be in the right about your situation, do you feel you came across in way that will make Spark want to assist you in rectifying the situation? Especially since he's a man with plenty on his plate like most of us.

Just some food for thought brother.
 
This may be his house. But this "house" is nothing without us paying members.

And as long as he relies on us to support his venture here, I feel I have the right as a member and customer to question and review this policy. All I ask is for his input, and for him to remove my malicious, unwarranted feedback.

We'll see if he makes it to this page :)
 
Don't sweat the little things. As life goes on, you will have far greater things to be concerned with. In the sceam of things, this incident is pretty irrelevent.
 
Subietuner said:
So if my situation happened to you, you'd just sit by and watch? or what?
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I've been a moderator on a large forum for about 9(?) yrs. On that site, the Trader Rating system is restricted to paid members, due to past abuses. There is also a subforum, similar to the GB&U specifically for posting inquires and feedback. Trust me - I have had malicious feedback, lol

Subietuner said:
And a feedback system that cannot be modified is inherently broken as well because there are liars, thieves, and people who act maliciously for no reason. There will bound to be negative feedback placed which shouldn't have. And there should be a way to act on it and get it removed.

A feedback system that removes malicious feedback when warranted is ideal.
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I don't disagree...but I do. The system is flawed. There is no way to get around that. But there will always be people that think their negative feedback is without merit, just like their will always be immature people that use the system maliciously. I'm not familiar with the specifics of your situation; but would you feel so strongly that the admin/mods should be responsible for policing feedback if you hadn't received that negative?

Maybe people here are more rational and controlled...but if we set a precedent of modifying feedback on that site, it would open the floodgates. Consider yourself lucky if Spark is willing to get mired in deciding that feedback should be removed or modified...it's a headache that I wouldn't want to deal with.
 
Boy, the best way to get me to see things from your point of view is to tell me that even though I own this site, I should be fired from it. That really puts me in the proper frame of mind to give your personal pet peeve the level headed & even tempered consideration it deserves.

Here's the thing. I don't have to have iTrader feedback enabled on this site. It's not a stock vBulletin feature. It's an add on that was requested by the membership, one that is unsupported. I don't care much for it, or the headaches it causes; especially when it comes to people who cannot resolve their differences without squabbling like children.

I'll take a look at your feedback. If *I* determine it is without merit, I'll change it. I will tell you this, however - you are very close to having your feedback set to zero by way of having your account locked.

You have access to the site. You have the ability to access extra premium content that is part of your paid subscription. That is not carte blanche to be an ass.
 
Spark said:
I'll take a look at your feedback. If *I* determine it is without merit, I'll change it.
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Thats all I ask.

Apologies for the rude statements, as I felt it was the only way to get your attention. I am sorry and didn't mean anything by it, the mind makes irrational choices when emotional

I know its a big pain and I'm sure it gets messy but I'm sure you see the importance of having a good feedback system where expensive knives get traded and sold.
 
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I'm one of the member's who reached out to, Subietuner, & suggested that he make this request, (over what he felt, was maliciously left negative feedback). I would've been upset too, had a member retaliated in this manner! IMO- the negative feedback that was left for Subietuner, was unwarranted. The buyer that he (Subietuner) was dealing with, was basically attempting to extort/threaten to receive a reduced price, for a knife he'd already purchased & received! If he wasn't happy- all he had to do was send it back (which is what any prudent buyer here would do). This could've happened to anyone who had the misfortune of dealing with this guy.

While I don't condone with the way that Subietuner, addressed his argument/request, to Spark, I can empathize with this frustrations, regarding the member's who behave in this manner.

BF iTrader feeback system isn't perfect, & on occasion, has had it's share of problems. This system has problems, because people abuse it! Unfortunately, it's usually the honest, paying member's, whom are most adversely affected, when vindictive, malicious, member's don't know how to remedy a situation, civilly. It's on these unique situations, that the ethical member's here, should be able to have some type of recourse.
 
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I remember that thread a while back. What a mess! Go back and read what Rev said in the last post. Exactly that has happened.

Frankly Subietuner, you messed up back then (though the other guy was a whack job but you could have handled it much better) and you are messing up again here IMO. Good on to Spark for saying what he did. If I were him I would let it stand. That old thread has so many people on ignore that I can only read what the mods and a couple members are saying. Personally, I would want to know how you carry yourself here and that thread, this one, and your feedback tell me I don't want to deal with you. And you are relatively new. "Forgetting" that you started a retaliatory thread? Come on. It is right there in the very link you directed us all to look at.

And you can stop wrapping yourself in the flag of "this is such a great community" or "I just want to keep helping this great community improve". Sorry, you don't participate in this community. All you do is buy, sell, trade, and complain.

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Man, I think OP did more damage to his rep with this thread than he had from the negative feedback.
 
AntDog said:
Man, I think OP did more damage to his rep with this thread than he had from the negative feedback.
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and with his retaliatory thread in the GB&U and his retaliatory negative feedback. I mean, coming in here and demanding things and talking smack about Spark and BFC is just silly.

Often these complaint threads do the opposite of what was intended.
 
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