Replacement blade less than par?

A_Blade_Afficionado said:
In all respect, what would compel you to abuse your knife like that? That's abuse. Get an axe for stuff like that. I chipped the tip of my blur abusing it, never again will I do it. One sharpening will fix my problem but I blame myself, not kershaw, for my damaged knife.
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Epic lols.

Cutting an aluminum can is abuse now? There may not be too many reasons to do it, but I've done it with not only Kershaws, but Benchmades and Spydercos. All of them held up very well.

Companies make mistakes. It's a simple fact. Bad companies ignore them, while good companies address them. In my book, Kershaw, Spyderco and Benchmade are all in the latter category. I understand that we all love our favorite new company, but to irrationally deny even the possibility of a mistake.... Not cool. :(
 
I hope you don't take this the wrong way. This forum has had several problems with what we refer to as trolls (those who post inflammatory things simply to cause a stir within the group) and it has made us all quite defensive. I am the first to admit that i've used my knives in ways that others would deem inappropriate or abusive. and as a result i keep those types of tasks to specific blades in my collection. and i have used kershaw customer service for all manner of things. including basically every part needed except the blade on the ZT200 i bought (the liners werent tapped right and i had to build the thing from parts so i could carry right hand tip up) and it has become my favorite get my hands dirty knife (outside the mudd).

if the edge chipped from aluminum it may have been ground at too fine an angle for that type of thing. try a spyderco sharpmaker with some diamond rods and reprofile to around 20degrees per side. this is a great angle for hard use tasks.

we are a helpful lot, we just ask that you vent in whine and cheese and then come ask questions here.

thanks

Matt
 
Slicing aluminum is one thing, "cutting a small hole" may be another. Lateral forces inherent with twisting a knife through may well be enough to chip a hard blade. As mentioned, softer (cheaper) blades probably wouldn't have chipped (but would likely need resharpening immediately after).

That being said, I would be surprised if one of mine chipped doing the same thing. On the other hand, a friend's SOG (Aus-8) chipped when he cut a beer can, too. :rolleyes:
 
riffraff said:
Slicing aluminum is one thing, "cutting a small hole" may be another. Lateral forces inherent with twisting a knife through may well be enough to chip a hard blade. As mentioned, softer (cheaper) blades probably wouldn't have chipped (but would likely need resharpening immediately after).

That being said, I would be surprised if one of mine chipped doing the same thing. On the other hand, a friend's SOG (Aus-8) chipped when he cut a beer can, too. :rolleyes:
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That was my thought. My R.A.M. was ground fairly thin, if that's the usual edge for that knife then it would be fairly susceptible to rolling/chipping like that.

The important lesson here is to sharpen your knives appropriately for the job, and know the limitations of the tool. If I tried to use my Spyderco Caly 3 (sharpened to .002" edge thickness) to cut a hole in a can there would probably be chunks missing. However, if I did it right and just did a few punctures (no twisting), I could probably get away with rolling the edge.
It's not that the knife can't do it, just that I wouldn't want to spend a few hours re-bevelling the edge after.
 
I've used my knives for all kinds of things over the years. Some of them very dumb (I've still got scars to prove it). Abnormal use is using it for something that a "knife" isn't normally intended to be used for. Like dropping point first on concrete or prying open a wooden box or using as a screw driver (ouch). If I'd damaged my knife doing something like that it wouldn't be something I'd expect to be covered under warranty. If the OP actually paid for a new blade to replace the broken tip, that's one thing. I'd be upset, too if it came back less than "perfect". If it was a freebie, then that's a different story.

My initial experience with Kershaw CS wasn't 100% satisfactory. This was on a definite factory issue, though. With a little patience and persistence they more than made up for the initial problem. They went way beyond anything I'd expect to make it right. A little subtly and asking for help can work better than whining and complaining.
 
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If memory serves to shotgun a beer you take a can stick a hole in the side near the bottom and cover the hole with your finger turn the beer up crack the top move your finger chug beer ?? I don’t think poking a whole in a beer would be abuse. My problem with the story is:
Parasitic Psycho said:
First thing that caught my attention was the fact that the replacement blade didn't have a date stamp or any of the other script. Also there was already a scratch on the coating. I don't really mind any of that very much, just didn't expect it.
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I have never heard of Kershaw shipping a sterile blade (one with no markings of any kind or at least a bod ). It seems that in all my lurking here in the Kershaw sub I would have heard someone mention it at some point. If I am wrong about this some one please correct me but this doesn’t ring true with me. As for the original poster take some advice from an “old guy” next time try one of these http://www.wikihow.com/Construct-a-Beer-Bong
 
Parasitic Psycho said:
Quite honestly I was merely cutting a small hole to shotgun a beer. I guess you guys are too old for that kind of non-sense.

I guess I will stick to the five dollar knives for any cutting task that doesn't involve tape or card board. btw, I wasn't swayed away from kershaw until I saw the attitude of the people on this forum, now I will probably never buy another kershaw. thanks for making me wise up to the caliber of costumer that kershaw attracts.

P.S : I needed a replacement because I dropped the knife and it landed tip first, resulting in the tip breaking off. I had zero complaints about the original kershaw blade and if I knew the new blade would be such a piece of trash I would of just bought a new one from the start.
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Well, there you go. It isn't the manufacturer's fault that you cannot hold on to your knife, you drop it and the tip breaks off.

You should not have sent it in under warranty in the first place.

I find it hard to believe that slicing a soda can would chip out a Blur anyway.
At least now you know that rather than buying a knife from a known quality company that prides itself on it's products and customer support, you should just watch the TV at 2:00AM and buy one of those package deals...200 knives for $60. That way you can cut all the metal you want and drop blades all the time without having to worry about what the factory says about it.
 
I've chipped blades before, but instead of whining like a little girl I fess up to MY mistake and take it like a man. Hell, I tried to cut a tight Ty-Wrap with an Emerson/Benchmade CQC-7 and when I twisted the blade it took a huge chip out of the ATS-34 steel. I screwed up. I twisted the blade when I shouldn't have. At first I thought "what the hell? It's a piece of plastic!" But I was just mad that my new knife chipped. I then realized I misused my knife and should have use a small pair of scissors.
The bottom line is that there is a tool out there for everything. When I'm at work and need to cut wire I use my pliers or a pair of diagonal cutters. If I need to strip wire I use a razor knife. If I need to cut PVC I use a pair of ratchet cutters. If I need to cut rope, string, break down boxes, or cut open boxes I use the knife that clipped to my pocket. If you want to pop holes in a beer can buy a SAK with an awl and now you've got the proper tool for the job. If you want to pop a hole in your beer can and try to make yourself look cool by pulling out your assisted opener, but instead make yourself look stupid by chipping the blade of your knife then that's your problem. If you ever buy a Kershaw again read the little bit of paper work that comes with it and you will see nothing about cutting aluminum with your knife because you aren't supposed to use your knife in that manner. If you misuse your knife blame yourself, not the maker.
 
darthsoaker said:
Epic lols.

Cutting an aluminum can is abuse now? There may not be too many reasons to do it, but I've done it with not only Kershaws, but Benchmades and Spydercos. All of them held up very well.

Companies make mistakes. It's a simple fact. Bad companies ignore them, while good companies address them. In my book, Kershaw, Spyderco and Benchmade are all in the latter category. I understand that we all love our favorite new company, but to irrationally deny even the possibility of a mistake.... Not cool. :(
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If you would have broke yours cutting a clamshell or breaking down a cardboard box, that's one thing. But you took an edge an applied lateral force on the thinly ground blade. Invest is a convex grind blade if you want to twist to the tip of your knife. Even if there was somehong wrong with your blade, we don't know because it wasn't used in circumstances that would cause most knives to chip.
 
Pros: Kershaw replaced blade damaged thru admitted negligence
Cons: replacement blade bore no trademark info, was scratched, and was damaged by aluminum can

I also suspect that the blade was twisted, perhaps unintentionally, and that would be abuse of any fine edge in hard steel, but

The question was about the replacement blade. One or two responders have said the unmarked blade was not normal. Now time to figure out what happened, and only Kershaw knows that. OP should state his case to their CS to get his questions answered, or quietly move along.

The beatings will continue until the whining ceases.
 
I have received a replacement blade for a Blur that had no markings. It's still on the knife and working just fine. For a company with such credible QC as Kershaw to be questioned about the heat treat of one blade is ridiculous.

Please remember the OP had issues with his first blade: he dropped it and broke the tip. Kershaw replaced it no questions asked. Now he's bitching (yes, bitching) about "no markings, a scratch" and a quality issue he can't back up? Be glad they didn't charge you for the blade like some other folder manufacturers would have done and move on. Sharpen the problem out.
 
SPXTrader said:
I have received a replacement blade for a Blur that had no markings. It's still on the knife and working just fine.
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Thank you Don Vito I didn’t know Kershaw used unmarked blades as replacement blades. Sounds like it might be fairly common on the blur. Guess you learn something new everyday :thumbup:
 
What you may not realize is that quite a few Blur's have the same blade.
Marking all with 1670GRY wouldn't look right on a 1670RD model. See what I mean?

mike
 
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