Replacement for OT

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Okay, I want to replace an Old Timer Senior Stockman. (This is for an old timer who only uses Old Timers ;) ).
This will be a user knife, not a pretty one.
Similar size/format and good steel, with as low a price as possible.
Soft stainless steel need not apply. Must be carbon or hard stainless.

What are the closest choices (model #s and links are helpful)?
Queen D2?
Case CV?
Others?

Thanks,
 
Queen #9 or #49 in D2

Moore Maker stockmans with bone handles (made by Queen) or in yellow delrin or buffalo horn (made by Camillus).

Check the Camillus and Schrade forums for the new Gran'pa series by Camillus - similar to Old Timers.
 
knifeaholic said:
Queen #9 or #49 in D2
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Leaning heavily toward these already, I have a small stock myself.

knifeaholic said:
Moore Maker stockmans with bone handles (made by Queen) or in yellow delrin or buffalo horn (made by Camillus).
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Good suggestions...keep them coming.

knifeaholic said:
Check the Camillus and Schrade forums for the new Gran'pa series by Camillus - similar to Old Timers.
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Search for gran gave no results...do you have a link? (I'm sure I will :footinmou when you find it.)
 
Sword and Shield said:
Queen, easily. It's the only series out there as tough as the OTs, and has better materials.
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Speaking of toughness specifically. How tough is Queen D2 compared to straight 1095 OT carbon? I am under the impression that it would snap more easily under load because of how hard it is heat treated. (This knife will be used hard.)

I have an OT and a Queen D2, but I like them too much to do my own test. Anyone out there "accidentally" test this property?
 
I can't speak for the Queen D2 bc I don't own one YET. However any Case with CV blades is tough as nails, I got a large Stockman, Canoe, and Peanut with CV blades, very easy to sharpen to a razor edge, good edgeholding, and very tough for their size. Also recommend you give a Spyderco Delica a try :)
 
if I were you I would go for a case amber bone stockman 6375 in CV. I just got one a few weeks ago and its a great EDC!!! And the CV works well, afterall its what all case blades use to be!!!! I like queen and the others, but you can get a better price on the case and its much easier to sharpen, and the amber bone is pretty. Your pocket book will feel much heavier too! ;)

If you contact Richard at the Florida knife he can get you a good deal Im sure. I paid a littler more for mine (had to use a gift certificate from smoky my wife gave me), but Richard and get good proces on manyt knives, especailly case!!!

www.thefloridaknifehut.com
 
Eye Brand. Great forged carbon blades and stag or composite scales. Resonable price and fit & finish. A decent selection of models to choose from as well.
 
The Buck Stockman would be a near match. They use cheap 420 stainless, but their heat treating has a good reputation. The Buck is $27, just a little more than the OT.

Happy Shopping,
Bob
 
Spydiefan04 said:
I can't speak for the Queen D2 bc I don't own one YET. However any Case with CV blades is tough as nails, I got a large Stockman, Canoe, and Peanut with CV blades, very easy to sharpen to a razor edge, good edgeholding, and very tough for their size. Also recommend you give a Spyderco Delica a try :)
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Ha, I'm a big fan of spyderco, I have many. The "Old Timer" in question would prefer a traditinal slippie though.

Thanks for all the suggestions!
 
I am also a fan of carbon steel pocket knives. I have more experiance with OLD TIMERS than anything else but I do have a few yellow handled CASE knives with CV blades and I am pretty happy with them. Something else to consider is a BUCK 301. I have had good luck with their stainless steel and they are well built. I think all the 301's are still made here in the states but I am not sure of this.
 
klattman....
If you are still interested in the Camillus Grand'pa Series....just go to page #2 of the Camillus Forum. About 1/2 down there is a thread with some pictures. Sure look alot like OTs.

Bill
 
Does Case make anything other than amber bone and yellow CV stockmans?

Are any of their "pocket worn" designs carbon?

I'm really annoyed that every case I find with such nice handles is "tru-sharp" :barf: Doesn't anyone _use_ these knives anymore?

P.S. thanks for the Grand'pa link. They look good.
 
What's wrong with the amber bone? I think its very pretty, more natural and tradtional looking for a classic SJ. Unfortunately they only make the yellow compostion and the amber bone in CV. They did for quite a long time, only make CV in the yellow compostion.

CV is case's original blade steel. These days they "cater" mostly to the collector market. Back in the late 80's when case was going under and parker bought it and "re-vamped" everything, the whole business, etc. He introduced the idea of it becoming more of a "collector's" company, enter mostly "420" for blade steel. They were using it before that, but after that, it was almost all 420. I have to say it has worked well for them. If Schrade had done the same, it may have done better.'

Why not try the amber bone?
 
rev_jch said:
Why not try the amber bone?
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I probably will, but I tend like darker colors. I also wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on any other CV models. Thanks,

I think I'll get one for the "old timer" and another for me... :o
 
contact Richard at the www.thefloridaknifehut.com. Tell Him John from columbus ohio sent you to him, ask him if he can get one for you at a fair price. I know Richard's email is down right now so give him a call at: 1-866-746-6155

Richard is a really good guy and a man of his word. I really like to deal with him. The friendliest person I know who is a knife dealer (and I know quite a few). Tell him your looking for a case 6375 in CV and amber bone.
 
klattman said:
Speaking of toughness specifically. How tough is Queen D2 compared to straight 1095 OT carbon? I am under the impression that it would snap more easily under load because of how hard it is heat treated. (This knife will be used hard.)

I have an OT and a Queen D2, but I like them too much to do my own test. Anyone out there "accidentally" test this property?
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Well, I've put a Queen #11, which has a very thin blade, to work at work for about 8 months. NO problems at all. I wouldn't advise prying or twisting, but then, I wouldn't advise that with any slipjoint.
 
How about an OT stockman. I have one with almost no use at all that dates back to the mid 1980's. I rarely use it.
 
Blades_Two said:
How about an OT stockman. I have one with almost no use at all that dates back to the mid 1980's. I rarely use it.
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Sure, that's the obvious choice, and there still are a few around. I just wanted to see what other options are available.
 
Why not get a yellow handled Case, they tend to be cheaper than the Amber Bone CV, and it is true that they are easier to spot if you drop them just like Case claims :)
 
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