Reputation points

The rep point system may not have been all that useful, but it was kind of neat. It was a quick and easy way to let somebody know they made a good post, or bad without cluttering up the thread with a 2 word post.

Eric_425 linked to a thread where it was being abused. Those type of people are like the children in grade school. You know the small group that thought they were cool, and when the teacher allowed a little free time or special activity, with the stipulation that if it got to loud or rowdy then it was over. Most of the kids enjoyed the time, but you could always depend on the wannabe cool-kids to ruin it pretty darn quick.

To the post whores in that thread, thanks guys. :thumbdn:
 
sak_collector said:
The rep point system may not have been all that useful, but it was kind of neat. It was a quick and easy way to let somebody know they made a good post, or bad without cluttering up the thread with a 2 word post.

Eric_425 linked to a thread where it was being abused. Those type of people are like the children in grade school. You know the small group that thought they were cool, and when the teacher allowed a little free time or special activity, with the stipulation that if it got to loud or rowdy then it was over. Most of the kids enjoyed the time, but you could always depend on the wannabe cool-kids to ruin it pretty darn quick.

To the post whores in that thread, thanks guys. :thumbdn:
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The rep system was fun. It was the first time I had been with a man and also my first fisting.Nothing more. I feel that TGB&U would serve better for reputations and people should still be judged on their content, not their rep points. As for the link, did you take the time to read it? If not, allow me to summarize it for you. Someone noticed the rep system. They wanted to make others aware of the rep system so that those who provide vasts amounts of knowledge, may be more recognizable. Yes, it did get a bit outta hand, but next time use a search engine and discover how many more people in other sub forums abused it before you try to place blame solely on one individual group :)
 
Well here we go I guess. The only real draw back to not having the rep point system is going to be in the fact that people will get more rowdy and mouth off more now.

If there was good from the rep point system it was probably in the fact that it did act as a thermostat to some degree because people didn't want a bunch of red dings in their CP box.

Without that thermostat to control the temp some watch out. Looks like more work for the mods to me without it but even still some changes probably need to occur in how points are tallied and from where before it would or could be brought back.
 
Cougar Allen said:
On the other hand, I have noticed when people who are generally considered to be dorks try to join in the rep whoring it doesn't work for them.
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Yes, but it's still indiscriminate repping between a group, where people weren't repped for the quality of the post. Reading the comments, you can see that many were just going down the list of posters, repping until they'd reached their limit. I guarantee I could've started the same sort of thread in another forum and received heaps of rep for it. And it seems that Spark agrees, as he locked the thread and the rep system was suspended the next day.

STR: don't worry. This website has been around for a long time without the rep system, and it got by just fine. A troll wouldn't care about red blocks next to his name. He'd just troll anyways. After a while, even regular posters wouldn't care, as the weaknesses of a rep system grow more and more obvious. As you may have already begun to see, you're much more likely to get repped for jokes, porn, etc then you are for real, informative posts. That's just people's nature, to pay special attention to posts that stand out from the standard, informative posts. As another on this thread pointed out, it'll begin to work better as a gauge of how many jokes or pics of naked girls you've posted, then the nature of your character. With standard stuff, it's best to just judge a post by it's content, don't worry about the number of colored squares above it.

With the buy/sell/trade forums though, a rep system would be useful if it could be implemented like the ebay feedback system- limited to people who had a transaction, and only between the two. Such a system would require bladeforums to keep track of every transaction though, and may not be practical.
 
For a brief moment, we had capability to see who left rep points, so it immediately excised anonymous sniping. Without the rep point system altogether, now snipers will be no more and they'll have to post their disagreements publicly, if they choose to at all.
 
I saw Sparks reasoning for stopping Rep points. I wonder if it was widespread, therefore meriting stopping the system; or was it a few, who could as easily been canked.
 
I guess Spark finally saw my posts on this subject. Good to be rid of that bullsh*t rep system.
 
averageguy said:
I guess Spark finally saw my posts on this subject. Good to be rid of that bullsh*t rep system.
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Don't flatter yourself. I doubt very highly that his decision to disable them had anything to do with you at all. :rolleyes:
 
you're right - it could just as easily have been your replies to my posts on this subject which caused him to reevaluate the system. :p
 
O.K., I can't resist.

The system is instituted without ever fully explaining how it works. The system is not policed. When people ask questions about it (yes, I know there was a lot of plain old bitching, but there were also some sincere questions posed), the overwhelming response from the powers that be is, "don't worry about it, it doesn't really mean anything". MANY abuses of the system are ignored. For example, when regulars of the cove call out the dogs on someone who's pissed them off; "send his rep to hell boys" comes to mind. Or how about raffling off a knife, in the main forum, with the price of a ticket being positive rep points to the raffler? Apparently "abuse" is at least partly determined by who's involved and which way the points are moving.

And now there's indignation over abuse of the system? :rolleyes:
 
Well put.

Ritt, if I could give you a chiclet, I would have. ;)

Coop
 
IMO the rep point system is pretty useless, with or without the whoring. In the end, you're only going to have 3 types of people: popular people, 3 red chicklet jerks, and new people/infrequent posters with low/no reputation. Expecting anything different is like God saying to Adam and Eve "have fun in paradise, but don't eat the apple" or giving your kids a bunch of squirt guns and forbidding them to fill them up with water. People'll give rep out for girlie pics in P'sC, funny jokes in W&C, etc. I'm not saying that excuses myself or anyone from "abusing" it, but it can hardly be unexpected.

If it was supposed to be used only to distinguish good sellers/buyers, I guess I missed that memo. Maybe there's a way to only allow reputation (or have another type of system entirely). Or exclude certain forums (Pirates Cove, W&C, Political) so good rep can be given for informative posts and good advice.

If they don't return, that's fine by me. If they do return (reset, I assume), I think it'd be good to limit where they're usable (if possible).
 
averageguy said:
you're right - it could just as easily have been your replies to my posts on this subject which caused him to reevaluate the system. :p
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Highly unlikely but if that reasoning makes you feel better.....:rolleyes:
 
Rep points are like statisics, they are skewed and highly interpretive, content in the appropriate subforum is the true barometer of a mans rep on the forums.

My old man used to say "No matter how ya wrap it, crap, still smells like crap."
 
Planterz said:
IMO the rep point system is pretty useless, with or without the whoring. In the end, you're only going to have 3 types of people: popular people, 3 red chicklet jerks, and new people/infrequent posters with low/no reputation. Expecting anything different is like God saying to Adam and Eve "have fun in paradise, but don't eat the apple" or giving your kids a bunch of squirt guns and forbidding them to fill them up with water. People'll give rep out for girlie pics in P'sC, funny jokes in W&C, etc. I'm not saying that excuses myself or anyone from "abusing" it, but it can hardly be unexpected.

If it was supposed to be used only to distinguish good sellers/buyers, I guess I missed that memo. Maybe there's a way to only allow reputation (or have another type of system entirely). Or exclude certain forums (Pirates Cove, W&C, Political) so good rep can be given for informative posts and good advice.

If they don't return, that's fine by me. If they do return (reset, I assume), I think it'd be good to limit where they're usable (if possible).
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Planterz, I think what you wrote just about sums it up. If it's really just about buying and selling reputations, then we need an Ebay style feedback process that only gives one the chance to comment on transactions that you are a party to.

I'll also get bold here and speculate that the percentage of folks with major reputation points was small compared against the entire group of folks that could have earned or granted rep points.

Razz
 
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