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Res-C handles shock resistance?

Discussion in 'Busse Combat Knives' started by JackTheKnifeGuy, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. JackTheKnifeGuy

    JackTheKnifeGuy Gold Member Gold Member

    805
    Nov 12, 2017
    Shock as in VOLTS. Not vibration from chopping.
    Anyone ever test one? I couldn't find anything on the web about it.
    I know they're not advertised as "insulated" or "shock resistant"

    Im just wondering if the rubber makes them withstand any sort of electrical current.
     
  2. Leonardo63

    Leonardo63 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 24, 2017
    I'm sure they do not conduct electrons- but that flared tube in the palm will get ya good I'm betting - either way, PLEASE try it and make us a video, would make a good PSA :D
     
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  3. WValtakis

    WValtakis Hand Engraving, Anodizing and Embellishment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2004
    The only things I would ever trust to make contact with live, energized parts are properly rated insulated tools. Anything else is gambling with your life, period.

    Edit-forgot about the lanyard tube, perfect conductor from the tang to your palm.
     
  4. JackTheKnifeGuy

    JackTheKnifeGuy Gold Member Gold Member

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    Nov 12, 2017
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  5. TheGrownUpKid

    TheGrownUpKid Platinum Member Platinum Member

    867
    Jul 2, 2013
    Yea you can't touch the flared tube, but I'm betting Res-C is highly insulating. You could test it pretty easily with a 9 volt and a volt meter, or a car battery with jumpers if you're brave and don't mind possibly arch welding the spot where the clamp bights the blade. Whether it would resist arching against 120v/15amp from your wall socket, or 240 from your washer/dryer socket, or even the full charge of a downed power line, that's another story...
     
  6. cj65

    cj65 Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 30, 2008
    Don’t have schwetty palms. I deal with 120 a lot at my work. Landscape irrigation controllers, not always easy to find or access the breaker to power down the 120 supply. I need to unconnect and reconnect wires that are live when swapping out clocks. I don’t/won’t do it in wet soil, nor rain. I go in with one hand. Once, my hand was wet, so were my wire strippers, had rubber/plastic handles. I wanted a fresh splice, so cut just one wire at a time and then went to strip, and jolt mother fucker! Rubber insulates, but wet or schwetty rubber conducts. Trust me on this one.
     
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  7. Private Klink

    Private Klink Gold Member Gold Member

    May 30, 2017
    Uh, safety first?:confused:
     
  8. JohnTheTexican

    JohnTheTexican Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Jerry said it 13 years ago, but I guess it's as timely now as it was then:

     
  9. JackTheKnifeGuy

    JackTheKnifeGuy Gold Member Gold Member

    805
    Nov 12, 2017
    Guess that answers my first question. Now for the second question.

    Can we have a run of handles that ARE?:thumbsup::D
     
  10. Leonardo63

    Leonardo63 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 24, 2017
    Hey man, everyone here is only guessing! you have to test it first and make a video for real! .... It will only hurt for a little while .... that is if it even bites you ;) Man, I stuck a bobby pin in a outlet when I was like 5, still here- :p
     
  11. Winston_Smith

    Winston_Smith Gold Member Gold Member

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    Oct 18, 2019
    Too funny!! My little brother was about the same age when he did that with tweezers. Knocked his little ass for a loop, then he got a whipping on top of it ...

    Winston
     
  12. PeteyTwoPointOne

    PeteyTwoPointOne Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    IIRC, I remember reading some old Busse literature where Res-C was actually originally used as insulation in high voltage applications.
     
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  13. Will York

    Will York Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 21, 2000
    Why not just wrap the lanyard tube portion of the handle with electrical tape a few times if you anticipate contacting a live wire with the blade?
     
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  14. SpyderPhreak

    SpyderPhreak Rocketman for hire Platinum Member

    Apr 13, 2004
    No, no, no... It's safety third... :eek:
     
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  15. Leonardo63

    Leonardo63 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 24, 2017
    What's funny is, I'm pretty sure that's the same path my experience followed because I popped the breaker in the house and it went dark LOL! I can still to this day remember slowly inching my way up to those slots and then FLASH!!! really bright lights followed by every fiber of my being being jolted and then total darkness! ... don't remember the butt whipping so much, had too many of those to count LOLOLO!! It was the first of my experiments with electrons yet to come. I did most of my learning in reverse you might say LOL!
     
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  16. Garth Reckner

    Garth Reckner Moderator Moderator

    Dec 13, 2004
    I think that would work, but still not going to test it to find out. Have had my share of jolts and I am not going out of my way to get another one.

    Garth
     
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  17. azwelke

    azwelke azwelke.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 12, 2007
    That would depend on the voltage, and how wet the ground is that you’re standing on, and how good your shoes are.
     
  18. azwelke

    azwelke azwelke.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 12, 2007
    If you hang from a powerline and your feet are not touching the ground, you cannot get shocked, but if your feet touch the ground or if somebody cuts the powerline between your two hands and you still have a hold onto each end, you will be exploded
     
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  19. azwelke

    azwelke azwelke.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 12, 2007
    Most good rubbers help as an insulator but unless it’s rated to a certain voltage, there’s no guarantee.
    My bet is that you would be fine chopping 120 V.
    If you chop through a hot and a ground at the same time it will take a chunk out of your knife.
    You may not get shocked but you better close your eyes, and have safety glasses on. And the more current or amperage the bigger the explosion.
    So it depends on the situation.
     
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  20. Will York

    Will York Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 21, 2000
    Here’s to good rubbers.:thumbsup:

    Sorry, couldn’t resist.:D You obviously know a lot about electrical current and conductivity. Thanks for sharing those pointers!:thumbsup::cool:
     

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