"Rescue Hook" on plane

[KnifeTurtle]

I'm going on a trip to Florida next week and I'm planning to bring my Benchmade Model 5 rescue hook along for the ride.

http://www.benchmade.com/products/product_detail.aspx?model=5

I want to know if it is okay to bring in my carry oon since there is no way this thing could possibly hurt anyone. Since the TSA is known for unreasonable rules I am leaning toward checking it, but does anyone on here know for sure?

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Nobody here knows for sure what some TSA employee is going to worry about, especially if he's never seen one before.

Remember, you're guilty until proven innocent, and you don't get a chance to submit proof.

 

[MORIMOTOM]

I'm going on a trip to Florida next week and I'm planning to bring my Benchmade Model 5 rescue hook along for the ride.

http://www.benchmade.com/products/product_detail.aspx?model=5

I want to know if it is okay to bring in my carry oon since there is no way this thing could possibly hurt anyone. Since the TSA is known for unreasonable rules I am leaning toward checking it, but does anyone on here know for sure?

like eb said, it is likely something they are not familiar with. they may think it is some sort of metal knuckle, which would be a reasonable response.

if it has a sharp edge, it could possibly hurt someone.

if it has a sharp edge, it is unlikely you will get passed tsa.

 

[TOM1960]

Interesting contraption. Never saw one before. Thanks for sharing the link, KnifeTurtle.

 

[Don G.]

I'm going on a trip to Florida next week and I'm planning to bring my Benchmade Model 5 rescue hook along for the ride.

http://www.benchmade.com/products/product_detail.aspx?model=5

I want to know if it is okay to bring in my carry oon since there is no way this thing could possibly hurt anyone. Since the TSA is known for unreasonable rules I am leaning toward checking it, but does anyone on here know for sure?

No problem. I've flown with mine A LOT...I'm a bit of a jet setter. That along with my Surefire E2D and Surefire pen never get a second look.

 

[Dorkhedeos]

Why do you need it to be on your body when you are on the plane? Is there something wrong with having it in the luggage?

 

[dsvirsky]

No problem. I've flown with mine A LOT...I'm a bit of a jet setter. That along with my Surefire E2D and Surefire pen never get a second look.

Good to know.:thumbup:

Why do you need it to be on your body when you are on the plane? Is there something wrong with having it in the luggage?

Maybe because sometimes we like to travel with just carry on luggage.

 

[Don G.]

Why do you need it to be on your body when you are on the plane? Is there something wrong with having it in the luggage?

Doesn't do me any good in my checked baggage if I need it to egress following crash. I actually had to cut a guy free in a helicopter crash back in 2005.

 

[gregorio]

I had my finger nail clipper, not a toe nail clipper mind you, but a finger nail clipper with the little 1" file on it taken away from me by TSA because it was too dangerous.

If you like it, I wouldn't risk carrying it on.

 

[frogmorton11]

I'd check it. I used to skydive and would travel the country with my parachute and we had hookknives similar to this attached to our gear. This was before 9/11. I always checked the knife then. If you don't find out until you are going through security that you should have checked it, you'll end up giving it to TSA. I never had trouble carrying on a parachute though.

Jamie

 

[jfn]

The TSA likes to err on the side of extremeism. I like the irony of not allowing even a keychain swiss army knife onboard, but you can carry a screwdriver that is up to 7" long, or a book of matches. I could do far more damage with a 7" screwdriver than a swiss army knife.
The good news is that they'll probably allow you to mail it back to yourself as opposed to just confiscating it if you get caught.
I just spent the past six months going traveling by plane for work. I didn't even bother trying to slip my safety razor through security...

 

[KnifeTurtle]

Why do you need it to be on your body when you are on the plane? Is there something wrong with having it in the luggage?

1. Checking a bag costs more
2. THings like this often go "missing" from checked luggage
3. Bags get lost

 

[thejamppa]

After 9/11 the whole blade thing got out of hands. Some air lines even removed disposaple plastic knives from their services and gave spoon-fork with slight serated part act as knife instead... I wonder what we can bring in plan after some nutjob hijacks plane with plastic disposaple spoonfork... Every passenger is allowed to carry single fig leaf over their privates in passenger section and their passport , nothing else?

But anything that cuts or has blade looking side is probably removed just to be sure... God damn idiot jihadists... They ruined a lot for us knife lovers... I show tell bin Laden where I can shove my razor sharp Ka-Bar (somewhere sun doesn't shine blade first) to express my gratitude...

 

[TOM1960]

I had my finger nail clipper, not a toe nail clipper mind you, but a finger nail clipper with the little 1" file on it taken away from me by TSA because it was too dangerous.

If you like it, I wouldn't risk carrying it on.

A RAILINC auditor who visited my company a couple of years ago wears eyeglasses. He told me that TSA confiscated his eyeglass repair kit (the ones in the plastic tube with the tiny screwdriver and a set of 3 or 4 miniature screws). TSA guy informed the auditor that the tiny screwdriver (about 1" long) was considered to be a deadly weapon and could not be allowed on a carryon.

 

[glistam]

Don't forget that in addition to the actual regulations from TSA, you have fake ones the agents at the counter make up. I don't know if it's raw stupidity, avarice or malice, but I could fill volumes with stories of TSA agents confiscating things that are NOT prohibited in regulations.

 

[MORIMOTOM]

Don't forget that in addition to the actual regulations from TSA, you have fake ones the agents at the counter make up. I don't know if it's raw stupidity, avarice or malice, but I could fill volumes with stories of TSA agents confiscating things that are NOT prohibited in regulations.

its mostly stupidity and arrogance.

they think they are some sort of law enforcement agency.

 

[myright]

its mostly stupidity and arrogance.

they think they are some sort of law enforcement agency.

That being said - How successful would one be in questioning TSA in regards to their own P&P's in order to get your stuff back?

 

[TOM1960]

its mostly stupidity and arrogance.

they think they are some sort of law enforcement agency.

I am not sure how much LE authority that TSA people have when on duty. Years ago, when I was in college, I worked for a private security firm that specialized in government contracts. We had a number of Treasury Department and DOE locations covered by our guys. We carried sidearms and had powers of arrest while on duty and on the property that was being protected. The weapons that we carried were formerly carried by FPO police officers (still engraved with their inventory control numbers) and the ammo that went into those weapons was the then-Treasury-standard 110-grain +P+ JHP LE-only .38 Special loads. GSA purchased a huge lot of this nasty stuff and it was divvied up. Some went to us and the rest went to the Secret Service, Customs, ATF and others. Fortunately though, we were allowed to carry a pocketknife (tactical folders, as we know them, didn't exist back then) for duty use, but it could not be carried openly on the Sam Browne gunbelt. My choice was a SAK. I used it multiple times during the course of my patrols.

 

[MORIMOTOM]

their LE powers would be the same as that of any non sworn citizen, afaik.

private security companies have a penal code section governing their on duty powers of arrest in california. it essentially amounts to a private person's arrest, and they will ultimately turn over custody to a police/sheriff department.

they enforce company policies, not laws, necessarily.

btw, i trained with a doe "police" guy once. they are some pretty highly trained personnel.

 

[kgd]

I've brought on a hardened steel striker and flint carry on quite often without any hickups. Also brought firesteels often enough.

I had sharp tweezers removed from me. Perhaps the worst story, but this was only weeks after 911, my wife had the red poppy removed from her blouse as a potential weapon. That was some poor-taste irony there!