Rescue Rod

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Has anybody seen one of these things?

Rescue Rod

It's one of those things that sort of maybe possibly might be a good idea. My guess is that it really isn't. I could be missing something though.
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I was really excited at the idea of asking women if they wanted to see my pink Rescue Rod
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, but then I found out that they only come in blue, silver, and cammo! I guess all the other odd colors they show are just to entice us into buying one.

I was somewhat surprised that some of the packed eqipment seems to be of good quality, like the bic lighter. I also found it quite funny that they don't call the signal mirror a mirror, but a "reflective device". The knife does at least seem to be a Buck/Wenger, and the whistle looks like it might be a Fox40.

Anyway, this might be the best thing since sliced peanut butter. What do you guys think?

Paul
 
Hi Paul,

Although I would just want to have one as a collection piece the price is to high for me to buy one just for fun.

For $124.95 I can buy a truck load of essential survival gear that I can easilly carry in a belt pouch or "belly" pack or whatever I use when I'm out hiking and have a decent knife (Cold Steel SRK, or even the cheap CS Bushman) and make myself a good hiking staff from a strait "branch" of a tree.

For me this gives me the choice to get the best equipement for my kit, addapt it to whatever terrain I'm hiking in and probably leave me some money also.
Just look at the "First Aid kit" of the staff it's just barely enough to bandage a few minor cuts.

Besides that I always love carving up a walkingstick it gives me a reason to use my knife (knives) and afterwards sit down and give them a light touch-up
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which is fun to me also.

Just my 2 cents,

Best Scouting wishes from Holland,

Bagheera

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I'll agree that it seemed a little expensive for whats included at first. I don't know how much milled aluminum goes for other than in flashlights.

I had some time on my hands so I did some shopping at rei.com. These prices certainly don't reflect the cheapest available, just a ballpark figure, and my best guess at matching the items they listed.

Whistle $5
Blanket $5
Butane Lighter $1
Compass $9 -Brunton Classic
Finger Saw $9 -Mouli Pocket Saw
First Aid Kit $8
Flashlight $10
Knife $20 -I'm being generous
Pencil & Paper $2
Reflective Device $5
Rope $5
Snake bite kit $13
Tent $12
Purification Tabs $5
Staff* $50
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$159

*thats the one I liked, an extendable aluminum alloy and threaded stud for camera mount.

The staffs REI had were much lighter, I would prefer the extra 32 oz. on my shoulders or hips than in a walking stick. Guess thats a personal choice though. Some heft might be nice if you were trying to fend off a dog or something.

The more I get into the gear side of outdoor pursuits, the more I want direct control of the quality. With a product like this, someone else does the choosing.
 
My problem with it is the weight. 42oz (2.6 lb) may not seem like much but carrying it for long hikes could get anoying. the typical aluminum walking staffs go from 10 to 15 oz.

Also I wouldnt want to have to disassemble the staff to get to my first aid supplies in a hurry.

Overall I think these items are better on your belt, pocket, pack, etc. I might be more interested in a staff that could hold just a few small items in the handle (like those 'survival knives' with the hollow handles). This just seems like too much.

 
How about the hot blonde, I think she would be ESSENTIAL in a survival situation!
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tknife,
Yes, every kit should have one. I would probably carry a spare if possible too!
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Who needs a fire?

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Well I guess the humor I intended in this thread didn't quite translate well in my writing. I guess I need to start using more Graemlins. This thing is one of those items that seeeeeems like it might be a good idea, particularly to the armchair adventurer. I thought the "sliced peanut butter" would give away my sarcasm. I'll let you all know if the blonde is included.
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(See there's that pesky sarcasm again.
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(Sincerity mode on.)
The only way I want a staff that weighs that much is if it's hickory and I can use it as a quarterstaff. My favorite staff is a piece of reinforced bamboo that has served me for many years (though I only use it if I have a heavy pack).

Paul (who needs to work on his written sarcasm)
 
Pat Crawford has made something similiar for years called a survival staff I believe. His runs about $200 and can be equiped different ways...if I remember right it can be used as a blow gun and a fishing spear.
 
As one poster already pointed out, I too would hate to have dump all this stuff on the ground looking for an emergency item. But what's even worse is that once you HAVE used something, you will never, ever get it into the same space again. That's because they use packing elves at the factories where they make this kind of stuff. A mere mortal human has no chance of getting a Mylar blanket folded into anywhere near the tiny package it orginally came in. And you KNOW the first thing some unsuspecting gear hound is going to do is shake the goodies out to see what all he has to play with, then scratch his head, curse and weep while trying to get it packed back up. The company probably has a "modest" repacking fee for just this occasion. :~}
 
The dulux one has a weel on the bottom; the super delux you get a porter. If you tape (having brought your own tape) a torch on the end you can probe the dark interior from the comfort of your home.

Sorry folks, don't like this one.
 
I have mixed emotions about this rod.My theory has always been,ANY survival equipment is better then NO survival equipment.I just E-mail the company and ask them if they would sell me a empty rescue rod so I could pack it myself.If the will(bet they won't),it would be fun just to see what I could do with this thing.Any feelings or ideas on this?I also told them it might be a good idea to offer the rod empty so the buyer could pack what items THEY would need depending on WHERE they were going.Would you guys buy something like this if the price was right?
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by wasp:
Would you guys buy something like this if the price was right?</font>

If you already have a walking stick (the retractible ski-pole type and probably many others last for ages), it seems like a bit of an expense. A large part of the cost seems to be the pole. Besides, some people like their walking sticks to have a crook at the handle and this rescue rod doesn't seem to allow that option.

I agree with the others about the inconvenience of getting at the specific item you need, not to mention the impossibility of carrying a packing elf.

Besides, if you need to use the stick for balance or purchase at the same time, how do you get at anything in it? I can just see a tired and inexperienced hiker like me slipping on a steep slope where he was using it as a third leg because he lifted it to take the torch out, and then sliding sprawling towards the lip of a drop while fiddling about with the thing trying to get the knife out to stick in the ground. Also, the rod is said to just unscrew rather than telescope. I'm not sure if it is at its maximum as long as a normal telescoping ski-pole but I find the telescoping feature pretty useful in normal non-emergency situations.


[This message has been edited by kmclye (edited 04-13-2001).]
 
I would guess it's better than nothing, and to a large number of people it might be the best shot they have at actually having usable tools when they need em'.
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I just hasn't been a Saturday night until someone's called you a ************.

 
While I wouldn't use it or even recommend it, I'd have to agree that some survival equipment is better than none at all. All too often I see people who enter the northwoods with no survival gear other than maybe a SAK and a pack of matches or a BIC lighter. Maybe a gadget like this will help some unknowing preppy who's found themself in a bad situation.

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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.
 
But maybe this is the kind of thing that will give them the confidence to really get stuck/in trouble.

All one really needs to go off the beaten track is: a compass (ability to read it), good map, water bottle, a little high energy food, waterproofs and cold weather gear, a couple of bics, a SAK, a loud whistle and maybe a small first aid kit. Above all an understanding of one's limitations. Anything more than that and you are going on an adventure and would prepare accordingly. If only more people would pack at least these basics. Nice if they told someone where they were going and when they should be back.

[This message has been edited by GREENJACKET (edited 04-14-2001).]
 
I agree that some survival equipment is better than none. I also agree with what I think GREENJACKET is saying. A false sense of security will kill you. Not knowing how to use the gear even though you have it is worse than having basic knowledge, and little gear, IMO.

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Paul Davidson

Them:"What's that clipped to your pocket, a beeper?"
Me:"Uuh....yeah, something like that."
 
And those who venture out with no equipment have no false sense of security? Gimme a break here, at least it's something, and that something has what appears to be halfway decent equipment.

Look at the first episode of Survivor2, when those idiots were trying to make fire. One of them had read a book and expected to be able to make a fire from an ill conceived fire piston, a couple others tried making sparks from banging their knife on a rock, another tried a bow/drill. The equipment in that damn staff doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how it works. It only takes the scientist to figure out how to put it back in the rod.

Like I said before, i wouldn't use the damn thing or even recommend it, but I am for carrying anything as opposed to nothing. Obviously, anyone who would purchase such an item at least has a concern for their security, safety, and survival.

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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.
 
I don't have a huge problem with this "rod" as there is plenty of stuff in the shops that have varying levels of use. Fundamentally I don't like it, but thats me.
Everybody starts with something. Few people really get into survivalism to the point where they are really proficient. There are plenty of places where I'd be prety much lost - though I'd give it a go. But hopefully as people get more involved, they learn a little more. I think we can all laugh at some of out less sensible purchases and decisions. Eventually, we find the stuff that works for us. Unfortunately, some of the stuff is of such poor quality they are no more than toys (the stick may be of the highest quality, I just don't know or care).

Practice makes perfect, which is best done in your own time within the safety of your home environment. Thats the place to find out what works for you.

On the otherside of the coin, one can buy all the best "gucci" kit in the world but it just won't beat getting out there and doing it. You don't need a whole lot of stuff anyway.

You only go on a five day hike with a new, unbroken in, pair of boots once
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Touche.

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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.
 
I already wondered when this will show up here on the forum. I saw them a couple of weeks ago at The Walking Company. Let me put my impression this way: Those sticks are a typical case of “looking-for-a-solution-where-there-is-no-problem”.

First the good part. The stick itself is nicely engineered, the quality and the machining of the aluminum is nicely done, it feels good and solid in your hand (hey, doesn’t THAT sound familiar?
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) As a cool walking stick maybe not a bad gadget, but any self cut straight hard wood branch would do the same trick for free and “real” walking sticks (do I have to mention LEKI?) beat this arcane design hands down.

Now to the bad parts. When I tried to get the stick out of the rack I first thought it got stuck somewhere. No, it was it’s own weight which gave me trouble. Now you could say “what a wimp”. But I’m not only 6’3” I’m also used to throw/carry our >1 year old daughter around all day long (well, at least on the weekend), so I’m a little bit used to that kind of activity. The thing was I tried the other sticks in the rack first. When you then grab the “rescue rod” you notice the unpleasant weight difference immediately. This gadget is just way to heavy to take it on any kind of extended excursion. On first thought, the idea of having these “survival” items with you sounds intriguing, but why the heck do I have to lug them around in my hand? Imagine all the muscles you have to use just to get that puppy moving all the time. Where is the actual advantage? The argument that all you need is the stick doesn’t hold up. Combining two items (survival kit and walking stick) in one is DANGEROUS. It’s the same like putting some stuff in a hollow handled knife. You loose the knife/stick you loose your survival kit. And this toy is even worse than the knife in that you carry the stick in your hand. A hand carried item is most likely the one you loose first when you get in some kind of trouble. Imaging wading a creek and slipping. What goes first downstream? Right, your stick with all the goodies. A survival kit belongs safely secured ON THE BODY and that at all times. You should be able to run with it, swim with it, climb a tree with it, ride a car/bike/kayak/etc with it… well, you get the idea. And what happens to your kit if you don’t want to use the stick because you are in an environment where you can’t carry it, let’s say you’re whitewater rafting? BAD choice!

Another thing is how difficult it is to get to those items and how difficult it is to put them back. Imagine you injured one hand and you’re alone. Can you still unscrew the stick and get to the items you need? Let’s hope so. I rather have a simple zippered pouch which I can open easily with one hand and can then pick the items I need without emptying it completely.

You might have notice that I didn’t comment on the items included. That’s a.) because I haven’t used them in the appropriate situation and manner and b.) they are so generic, that any word spend on them would be a waste of time.

So in short again, this stick belongs in the category useless gizmo with questionable functionality which can give you a false sense of security and therefore put you in serious trouble. IMHO this thing is to be avoided like the plague by any knowledgeable outdoor person.
 
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