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Resin filled eyes.

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by Gator39, Jul 15, 2017.

  1. Gator39

    Gator39

    72
    May 13, 2017
    As a newbie to axes, I always thought if an axe or hatchet had a resin filled eye, it was an indication of a cheapie short cut in new production.
    As with all things, I'm learning that may not be the case.
    Can the wise elders share their knowledge on this practice?
    Timeline.
    Companies involved.
    Effect on desirability.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Square_peg

    Square_peg

    Feb 1, 2012
    Plumb started doing it in 1956 under the name 'Permabond'. Modern fiberglass handles are typically installed this way. As you say, most of the new stuff is hardware store trash. The old Plumbs are fantastic.
     
  3. garry3

    garry3

    Sep 11, 2012
    Can't say I have ever seen a perma bonded handle that was loose. Even some that where badly weathered from being left out in the elements.
     
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  4. Agent_H

    Agent_H Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 21, 2013
  5. Steve Tall

    Steve Tall

    Aug 28, 2010
    Hults Bruk had epoxied heads at some point, reportedly called "Agdorfix", and there are some archived Canadian newspapers from the early 1970s that mention Agdorfix, like this Canadian Tire ad from 1972 with a $2.39 hatchet:

    "...Forged steel head with permanent-bond 'Agdorfix' wood handle..."

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    The Ottawa Journal, May 31, 1972, page 80


    Gransfors Bruk also used epoxy for a while. According to the company history, in 1988 (or thereabouts) Gransfors stopped using "the epoxy adhesive previously used for attaching the handles."
    https://www.gransforsbruk.com/en/about/the-history-of-the-company/
     
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  6. Lieblad

    Lieblad

    Jul 24, 2015
    I have a stack of Swedish Army H-Bs what are epoxy fitted.
    As stuck in wood & wiggled to remove, notices some looseness one sees at the haft shoulder.
    One might think of it as a loose head, But its not coming off... Otherwise perfectly serviceable.
     
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  7. Agent_H

    Agent_H Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 21, 2013
    Agdorfix -

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  8. rjdankert

    rjdankert Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 10, 2011
    I have a Hults Bruk hatchet with epoxy and I've seen pictures of other HBs with epoxy. I've tried to get a date range for those, but so far no luck.

    Off topic, but I thought interesting post on a HB with epoxy:


    Bob
     
  9. Agent_H

    Agent_H Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 21, 2013
    Billnas, after they were absorbed by Fiskars used epoxy as well.

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    The next step in the evolution of their "epoxy" went all the way down to the palmswell ;)
     
  10. Kevin Houtzager

    Kevin Houtzager

    602
    Jun 25, 2017
    Epoxy has been used in extensively in Europe. I use it for bonding honeycombs in cars (the 200KG/cm2). But I really don't like it for axes. You can sand it down however, but its a lot of work! I only use it for things that don't need replacing under normal circumstances.
     
  11. Kevin Houtzager

    Kevin Houtzager

    602
    Jun 25, 2017
    Havent seen a fiskars stamped one before! :cool:
     
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  12. Comeththeblob

    Comeththeblob

    4
    Sep 6, 2018
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  13. BamaDADx3

    BamaDADx3

    129
    Jul 1, 2016
    I thought it was created to teach People how to Cuss. Because that's what I end up doing every time i have to try and remove one. ;)
     
  14. Shampt

    Shampt

    4
    Saturday
    I have a Diamond brand axe, stamped HK behind the eye, that was given to me, handle looked fine, epoxy'd head, sharpened and took about 20 swings into splitting a log, started to feel loose, about 5 more swings and when I pulled the handle up the handle slid clean out of the eye leaving the epoxy and some woodfibres. +1 for traditionally set heads, at least you can see when they need a tap, and can access them to do said tapping.
     
  15. Goose 7279

    Goose 7279 Gold Member Gold Member

    751
    Jul 22, 2015
    Plumb permabond is some of the toughest stuff out there IMO. Never had one slide off without drilling it into swiss cheese first.
     
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