Respirator or no respirator, that is the question… (part 2)

Ansoknives said:
if you have problems with your safetyglasses fogging up wear a fullface shield...!! also comes in handy if you fall asleep at the grinder...!


this is a old pic but same stuff I use today......noise is another thing you need to think about...sure it wont have you die early but those ears are good for ya....I wear safety shoes as well.....probably a good thing since I always try to catch stuff with my feet to avoid them getting dinged by the concreete floor....

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"Luke.............I am your father :D :D


for under my grinder, I bought one of those hard rubber safety mats. They help when standing on concrete in the same position for long periods--the also help when you have an "aw s#it moment" and drop a blade that 90% done.
 
It looks like the masks Alain posted run abour $225-$250, as far as I can tell. Plus the cartridges which I assume go in the backpack thingie somehow. Is the plastic front on those shatterproof or does it add any kind of protection against, say, a flying knife that comes firing off the buffer or grinder? If it doesnt, I'd probably get the same company's half mask, which looks to run abour $35 or so, and the same backpack filter attachment thingie. I use an old one from Lowe's, but I'm ready to retire it for something a bit nicer. Maybe we should see if we can do a group buy on the big daddies Alain is using?
 
Oh yeah, what about glasses. I need reading glasses when I grind. Do they fit OK under those full face things?

Steve
 
It looks like the masks Alain posted run abour $225-$250,
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I pay mine something about 130-150 $ Canadian.
The Backpack Adapter are bought separate...

Thos full face mask exist in two models, mine are in
grey ruber but the other model are made with black soft silicone
and cost twice the price. I tryed the two models and The basic
model are ok for me... I did not see a big difference

the plastic front on those shatterproof or does it add any kind of protection against, say, a flying knife that comes firing off the buffer or grinder?
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The plastic facepiece is thick enought to give a good protection (more thick
than my old full face shield, and seem to have better optical quality). I also
use peel-away windows to protect-it...

Alain Miville-Deschênes
http://www.miville-deschenes.com/amd_anglais/index.html
 
There are a couple on eBay right now. Not sure which model, but worth looking at. Nailing down a price with these online companies is next to impossible.
 
OK Now I'm fully confused. Because of glasses, maybe I want a half mask?

There's a million of those.

dang, dang, dang.

Steve
 
Steve, the North product looks pretty spiffy on that, too. I've noticed when I do a lot of knife stuff my glasses get beat to hell. I almost need two pairs. Anyway, the North half mask that is silicone, like the nice full face one, is only $25 or so. Maybe not even that much, and it's nicer than the plain rubber ones. The cool thing is that you can use the backpack adapter thingie with the half mask, too. North sells it as a package deal. Prices were hard to find but I did spot it for $120 or so set up that way. Definitely lengthens cartridge/filter life and I'm sure it reduces wear and tear on your neck muscles, too. I'll probably pop for a half mask then upgrade to the scuba looking thing later. Or just take a really deep breath, run in the shop, grind, run out, exhale, breathe in, run in...
 
Steve: LMAO - hmmm that's lots of running.

I found this place, http://www.labsafety.com/store/dept.asp?dept_id=42849

They have 8 brands, then all their models! And all the prices. And all the attachements. Driving me crazy.

I remember when I used the half mask (3M from the hardware store). I couldn't get the glasses on. The nose thing was in the way. But the full mask looks heavy and no reading glasses.

.... By the time I decide I'll be in great shape from all that running about.

Steve
 
I think that 3M make a full mask too.
But for me, the most important thing is that I can
find North Cartridge (and prefilter) at about 3 streets of my house,
3M cartridges are more difficult to find here...

Alain
 
Chiro75 said:
I'll probably pop for a half mask then upgrade to the scuba looking thing later.
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Hmm... I Think I'd just use my SCUBA gear... After all I already have it :D
 
In thr new woodworkers Journal is a couple of aircleaners with big pleated paper filters like the one's used on Diesiel trucks.
These guys claim it is better than the old "baghouse" style cloth bags.

Looks pretty simple to replicate.

Mungo, I used to watch some of those "old weldors"
say.

I never by damn used a... hack, cough racken fracken fricken fracken cough hack...... respirator and I ain't starting now!"

DUH

Higgie, in one of the past Blade Mag's was a series of articles "Super Shop"

Schwarzer??? I ferget. ANyhow he had his grinder setup in a kinda leanto with one of those big 36" fans sucking out all the grit. Kinda like working just in front of of a wind tunnel.

You just need a heat exchanger for up Nowth! :p:p:p
 
someone asked earlier about Corian.

It's not a toxic dust - treat it like you would pine. Guys making counters out of this stuff wear dust masks, and I believe that's what the MSDS sheet recommends. A plain-ole respirator works fine.


Don't get too paranoid about the odors. People live in cities that have constant odors from paper mills, rubber factories, etc. and don't die from it. It just stinks.

I wear my resp. anytime I'm kicking up a lot of dust. I really should get my dust collection system up and running but finding parts, hoses, elbows, etc. at a good price is next to impossible.

Anybody got any links?
 
Daniel Koster said:
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I wear my resp. anytime I'm kicking up a lot of dust. ..............
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The respirator is not made for dust, but to protect you from toxic gases released by the products you're using.

For dust protection, you need to get the adapters that fit over your cartridges, and hold on cotton dust prefilters. They also help to prolong the life of the cartridge, by keeping it from becoming contaminated by that dust.

If you'll read the small print on your respirator cartridges, they usually state the're not rated for sand/bead blasting etc.

The prefilters are fairly inexpensive, and the adapters are a one time expense.
 
S.Shepherd said:
I don't have a link to it, but look up " Trend airshield"

I have one and it works great for dust. The down side is , it doesn't have a chemical filter for fumes. For grinding blades I really like it.

ok, here's a link
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4923
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READ THE FINE PRINT
When you get into these respirators you have to know what the filter actually does. This thing has a pre-filter and a main filter---What does that do?

You have to know in microns what the filters will remove. It's the super fine particles that get you. Most are so fine you don't know you are inhaling them. A lot of money and hassel for an unknown amount of protection.
 
The best thing to do is find a safety supply store. I have one in my little town of Fortuna Ca, pop 12000. They will fit it for you and recommend what you will need for the type of filtering you need. It is not cheap, They charge $50 for the fitting but then you will know exactly what size you need and will get all of the proper filters, prefilters halfmask/fullmask with galsses without, whatever you need to keep your lungs healthy. I need to wear mine much more and have several to choose from. I agree whole heartedly with Mike and several others that it is far cheaper and less painful to use a resparator that is properly fitted than it is to end up in the hospital for days weeks or even years.

Quoting a famous footwear company "JUST DO IT"

Chuck
 
Guys!!! This thread is over a year old.:rolleyes:

Start a new one if you have some information to impart or questions to ask.
 
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