Review mini grip, skyline and sog flash

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A review of 3 popular knives

1. Doug Ritter Mini-Griptilian MK1 M4
2. Kershaw Skyline
3. Sog Flash 1

The Griptilian had the most sharp edges, everywhere. Between the scales, the thumb studs, the lock release studs, the handle, and the clip itself.

The Skyline had the BEST fit and finish, no sharp edges between the scales, the thumb studs not dont bite your hand excessively, and the pocket clip is smooth. In addition the spine of the blade is smooth.

The Sog had sharp edges on the thumb studs, on the lock release, and the spine of the blade.

Though the blade spine is not as sharp on the Griptilian as on the Sog, it is not smooth nor rounded like the Kershaw.

Opening the Griptilian with the thumb stud is very very smooth, and closing it, once you manage to get the lock released is super easy.

Opening the Kershaw, using the flipper, is pretty easy, the thumb studs do NOT work to open the knife. Closing the Kershaw requires digging your finger nail into the liner lock to release it, and the flipper hits your finger right away, so you cant hurt yourself..

Opening the Sog is a joy! It flips right open. Closing it requires a bit of effort, both to activate the lock release, and also to close the blade, because it is spring loaded.

Cutting fruit and tomatoes, the Griptilian is the worst, it resists slicing, possibly due to the thickness of the blade. It actually crushed the apple, more than it sliced it.

The Skyline is the best cutter, both for tomatoes and apples, it really slices throught, and the blade releases easily.

The Sog works OK, its just a very small blade.

None of the knife handles allow the cutting edge to reach the cutting board, unless you keep the handle off the edge of the board.

I removed all the pocket clips so I could get a feel for the handles, and to feel how the knife rides dropped inside a pocket of my thin nylon Ex Officio pants. The Sog, being smallest and lightest, fits best in a pocket. The Kershaw being longest, prints the most as it lies accross the bottom of the pocket. The Griptilian falls between the two in terms of length, but it is the thickest and heaviest.

The pocket clip on the Sog is the most elegant, and the whole knife is hidden below the pocket edge. The clip works to carry tip up only, which I happen to like, and can be left or right handed. Although the lock is only right handed.

The pocket clip on the Griptilian is also tip up only, and the finish on the clip is terrible, lots of sharp edges all around, even burrs. It is reversible left or right handed, and the lock release is on both sides. It works best to unlock using both sides at the same time, but it can be done with just one side. It is also possible to flip the Griptilian open and closed, by releasing the lock, and not using the thumb studs..

The pocket clip on the Kershaw can be tip up or tip down, but right handed only. The tip up clip location leaves more of the handle above the pocket line than the Griptilian, which also rides above the edge of the pocket.

The least scary lookiing knife is the SOG, the most dagger like is the Kershaw. The Griptilian is not very dagger like, it has nice curves, both in the handle and the blade profile.

If I had to carry only one, due to its light weight and small size I would choose the SOG.

As a food tool, the longer blade of the Kershaw works best, and it slices the best. It is also available in Damascus for just $55, very inexpensive.. I will probably buy one.

The handle on the Kershaw is G-10 and has a very nice feel. I also like how flat it is.

The handle on the Sog is very nice, a bit thick maybe, and the finger grooves dont fit my hand, but its a nice package.

The handle on the Griptilian was way too sharp on all the molded ridges, and took the most work to smooth out to a reasonable feel.

Cost wise, the Sog and Kershaw can be had for 30-35 dollars. The M4 Ritter mini-Griptilian cost $145.

Without the pocket clips, the Sog weighs 32 grams, the Kershaw 67 grams, and the mini grip 72 grams.

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Welcome, very detailed first post. Benchmade knows about the finish issues with the BM558, perhaps you can call them up? Maybe they'll sharpen it, too. Were these just out the box for consistency?
 
Burrs and sharp edges are reason why i got custom clip for my Mini M4' MKI. It scrapped my wallet and cut my skin.Quite unacceptable. my 940's clip was perfectly smooth and excellent fit. Other than clip, I am really happy with Ritter mini M4.
 
Good reviews. When my Local Wal-Mart put Kershaw Skylines on clearance a few weeks ago, I grabbed one even though the pocket clip isn't reversible for southpaws, I just took it off and drop it in my pocket. Great little "Gentleman's size" folder.
 
Thanks for the warm welcome, I learned a lot reading posts here before buying those knives.

Yes, they are all just out of the box.

I didnt get into steels, not really qualified, but fwiw, the Sog is Aus 8, the Skyline is 14C28N, and the ritter is M4

the $145 ritter is considerably less expensive than benchmades $400 M4 grip with carbon fiber scales.. maybe thats why they just throw the ritters out there unfinished.. I do prefer the ritter blade shape.

thanks for the confirmation that the benchmade pocket clips are sharp.. my leatherman's diamond file is coming in handy.. till I buy a dremel :-)


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Jon,, welcome aboard man.. Outstanding first post.. Bravo...........:thumbup:

I only own one of the knives mentioned, the Kershaw Skyline.. I carry it quite frequently and have used it to death.. It sharpens easily and is just all in all the most bang for your buck, as a matter of fact I was at a walmart a city away and they had them on close-out for $25 !!! I may just have to pick one up for when the one I have craps out.. Yes I use it that much, its cut roofing shingles, rope, and more rope, plastic, boxes and plenty of fruit.......

My only complaint about the skyline is, it ride a little high tip up..also the thumb stud shouldn't even be there...
 
The clips on my Mini RSK Mk1 M4s were very badly finished, with sharp, burred edges.
Sloppy finish from Benchmade.
 
nice review jon... if i did'nt arleady own a skyline i would after reading you comparison review. shame about the mini grip.
 
I love my Skyline. I carry that thing everywhere. It is just about perfect size for EDC and use.
 
Good reviews. When my Local Wal-Mart put Kershaw Skylines on clearance a few weeks ago, I grabbed one even though the pocket clip isn't reversible for southpaws, I just took it off and drop it in my pocket. Great little "Gentleman's size" folder.

I grabbed one as well, $25 for a great little knife!!!
 
30 dollar knife has better F&F than a 150 dollar knife? :confused:

Anyway nice little comparison review.

I have found time and again its not about price anymore, mostly about hype..

case and point, spyderco persistence is another fine example of what $28 can get you and can be compared to and very comparable to a $100 hyped knife..
 
thx for the review.

of the 3, i only have the skyline, blk blade/tan scales. it is a very nicely executed design.

though i would say it is smaller than the specs would lead one to believe. i was able to handle one before purchase, but otherwise i think i would have expected it to be larger.

and it does not have thumbstuds, they are stop pins.
 
I really like the Skyline, too. I bought one w/red scales from Kershawguy and it is in my pocket more than any of my other knives.
 
> it does not have thumbstuds, they are stop pins.

good point, I see there are recesses for them to help support the blade in the open position.. which is why Im not taking them off..

they do serve as thumbstuds after a failed flip open attempt <g>

I just took the thumbstuds off the Griptilian, one less thing to snag on when drawing the knife.. I can still thumb it open, and have been practicing the flip open, which requires pulling on the axis lock button.. like in this video, starting about 1min 15 seconds in

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As far as what makes a Ritter Grip worth so much more than a Skyline, the Ritter has M4 steel, and is an axis lock. The Ritter has less side to side play in the blade, and the construction is more robust, with dual steel liners. By contrast the Skyline is a linerlock, possibly less secure, though the flipper on the Skyline totally prevents the blade from closing on the index finger. It only has a steel liner on the lock side, none on the other side, just the G10 scale..
 
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if you remove the stop pins, the blade will just swing freely past 180 degrees both ways.
 
The clips on my Mini RSK Mk1 M4s were very badly finished, with sharp, burred edges.
Sloppy finish from Benchmade.

All the BM parkerized clips suffer from this, not just the M4. I just ordered a new one for a first run Mini RSK that had the older benchmade clip and I had to file some burrs down on it.
 
to link a youtube video, take the series of letters/numbers at the end of the link:

xL3iWM2ByLk (this is from your link)

then place between youtube brackets.


if you quote my post, you can see what i mean.
 
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if you remove the stop pins, the blade will just swing freely past 180 degrees both ways.

Nice mods. However, the blade does look awkward to me with that little thumb stud hole in it. How about enlarge the hole and make it a Benchyderco. :D
 
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