Rick hinderer using teflon washers

While I would like to see a Hinderer with a bearing system, I have no problem with the teflon washers they use. Hinderer has sold a lot of knives over the years and I don't recall any internet threads about teflon washer failure. Monkey edge sells extra Hinderer washers for a couple bucks, if you ever need replacements.
 
I have an XM-18 that I bought Phosphor Bronze washers for and there is literally no difference at all in action/lockup/smoothness. The ability for one vocal luminary with a wide-reaching platform to have such influence over people's opinions is a serious issue in the knife community. The teflon vs. phosphor bronze washer hysteria is going to be the next ZT Elmax controversy.
 
I believe that larger diameter washers are an upgrade. I am interested in replacing my 3.5" XMs washers. I'd sure appreciate any help finding a set if someone could post where they got theirs!
 
Misanthropia said:
I have an XM-18 that I bought Phosphor Bronze washers for and there is literally no difference at all in action/lockup/smoothness. The ability for one vocal luminary with a wide-reaching platform to have such influence over people's opinions is a serious issue in the knife community. The teflon vs. phosphor bronze washer hysteria is going to be the next ZT Elmax controversy.
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Yea, because PBronze is just as easliy chopped by sloppy pivot reassembly. No difference at all.
 
I have a few Hinderers, (XM18 3.5s and fattys) and have not noticed an issue with the washers for any of them.

Lube is not an issue either. I currently use nano oil, but have used and had no issues with: Daiwa oil, Frog lube, and plain old generic mineral oil. I also had success with fluorinated grease ("Christo-Lube")

Some prefer phosphor bronze and you can order them if you like. They do help with firming up a weaker detent and enabling a looser pivot. They cost next to nothing either.

Regarding bearings, they would be an interesting oddball in the Hinderer world. Would they provide any real-world benefits beyond aesthetics and personal preference? I doubt it.
 
AndreLinoge said:
Yea, because PBronze is just as easliy chopped by sloppy pivot reassembly. No difference at all.
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They can be bent quite easily if you're sloppy with them, neither are indestructible. And my point was in regards to action/lockup/smoothness on the XM-18, not durability.
 
Misanthropia said:
I have an XM-18 that I bought Phosphor Bronze washers for and there is literally no difference at all in action/lockup/smoothness. The ability for one vocal luminary with a wide-reaching platform to have such influence over people's opinions is a serious issue in the knife community. The teflon vs. phosphor bronze washer hysteria is going to be the next ZT Elmax controversy.
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And who might be that vocal luminary???
I have a couple Mcustas with teflon washers and they are extremely smooth. No reason to change them at
 
I use TriFlow on my Teflon washers if they need lubrication and it makes them smoother than smooth.

I have a Wilson Combat Les George Eagle that I dearly love, but I struggled for quite a while trying to get it to flip well. Looking into it, I found that Teflon (brand name) is PTFE, which is also the primary ingredient in TriFlow. I could only find it locally in an aerosol can which made application more difficult, as I had to take the washers out and spray them on a paper towel to avoid getting lubricant all over the lock interface. Recently I found liquid TriFlow in a needle dispenser on the Big River Site and can easily add a couple no-mess drops to a pivot when required.

My two Hinderers with Teflon washers are among the smoothest knives I own and my Eagle's action is just excellent now.
 
Per Bob Terzuola the best washers are Nylatron. They don't need additional lubrication so they will not pick up dirt and dust. It's what he uses on the ATCF.
 
brownshoe said:
Per Bob Terzuola the best washers are Nylatron. They don't need additional lubrication so they will not pick up dirt and dust. It's what he uses on the ATCF.
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Emerson uses those as well. They are available from the manufacturer Seastrom Mfg.
 
Davor said:
Funny, I showed my female dermatologist a birthmark under my ball sack. She asked how in the world did I notice it and I said my gf pointed it out. She then said we may need to keep an eye on it.

I have an old CRK small sebenza BG42 that has the bronze washers. Not sure the newer versions have them.
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Huh

sent from a highly secretive CIA base somewhere in the deep jungles of South America shhh
 
I think many people just value the added durability and longevity that PB washers offer, especially in high end, hard use types of knifes. It's not surprising.
 
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