Rifle suggestions

Something along the lines of a Remington Model 7 in either .260 Remington or 7-08 with a 2-7X VX-II Leupold and you're set.
 
Chambers said:
I'm interested in starting to shop around for a "do it all" general purpose rifle.
I'm looking for something that I could take hunting if I decided to. I'm thinking deer at most. Something that will do a lot more paper punching than anything else, tin cans at 100+ yards, but at the same time something that would fill "The Zombies are coming" role as well.

Just a basic all around "yeah I can do that" Rifle.

I know bolt actionsions. I have zero millitary experience so these fancy all black looking things (AR-15?) are completely foreign to me.
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1. .308"

2. Remington 700

3. 4 x scope

Job done.

If you have a wee bit more money, improve the scope.

If you have a wee bit less money, buy an Enfield No.4 Mk. 1 or 2.

Forget self-loaders in your price range. You'll double your cost bringing a sub-$500 SLR up to the accuracy standard of a sub-$500 bolt action.

maximus otter
 
.30-30 or .357 mag lever for the ranges you indicated. Add a sling swivel set up and a peep sight. Fast, fun, relatively cheap to shoot. Ammo is easy to find. Hornady has introduced a new .30-30 round that stretches the range a bit. Also, do some searches and see what guys are doing with 125 gr bullets as all around coyote, deer, and plinking loads.

If ranges are going to be longer a good bolt in a basic caliber, .270win, .308, etc. is a fine option.

A bit pricey these days, the Browning BLRs are sweet, accruate shooters available in the above calibers and others such as .223rem and .22-250. Think of them as a lever action bolt gun. I had one in .223 that was compact, accruate, and s sweet little package with a Leaupold 6x compact scope on it.

The recommendations for the surplus guns are good. With an SKS keep the firing pin channel clean. There have been accounts of dirty ones causing the firing pin to stick extended creating a nice slamfire, uncontrollable auto. The Mosin-Nagant in the Model 38 config is nice. Short, handy, rugged, and I think good looking. In that short barrel it also kicks, roars loudly and if shot at sunset or later will light up the night with quite the fireball out of the muzzle.

Pretty much anything you like in a non-magnum, classic caliber that feels good to you should do for what you've described. Feed it decent ammo and shoot it a lot.

Enjoy!
 
Kabar,Do they ship the rifles directly to the buyer,or do you have to go through an FFL dealer for this program?
 
Marlin .30-.30

OR any of the old military style rifles previously mentioned just keep in mind that some of the European guns may be slightly harder to find ammo for. Also save up for a Sprinfield M1A (what I'd recommend if you weren't on a budget)
 
Kabar,Do they ship the rifles directly to the buyer,or do you have to go through an FFL dealer for this program?
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they come directly to your door, fedex i beleve, no FFL or C&R required. there shiped in large padded boxes with a bag containing 1 clip, 1 flag, 1 garand owners manual, a mail off for a free gun lock, and a NICE certificate stating what you baught. there might be one or two other small things included that im forgetting right now. sence there stright from anaston army depot theres no import markings on any of the greek or dane guns.
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I believe I have made my choice.
I took everyones advice and looked into the Remington 700 series.
I finally settled on a Remington 700 SPS (?) it's an all black/synthetic stock chambered in 308. The dealer I'm going through wants $419 for it. which is in my price range. He also suggested tricking it out with a Leupold rifleman scope 3-9x40 (well that's what he wrote on the card) for about $200.
add rings and the mounting widgets it looks like all told I'm going to be in the $600-$700 range.

Little more than I wanted to spend but it's really not that bad, and from what I can tell it's a quality product.

My only question is I feel like the scope is a bit expensive. I'm familiar with Leupold optics and I know they're considered the cream of the crop. However is there a decent scope out there for a little less or should I stick with the Leupold?
 
Chambers said:
I believe I have made my choice.
I took everyones advice and looked into the Remington 700 series.
I finally settled on a Remington 700 SPS (?) it's an all black/synthetic stock chambered in 308. The dealer I'm going through wants $419 for it. which is in my price range. He also suggested tricking it out with a Leupold rifleman scope 3-9x40 (well that's what he wrote on the card) for about $200.
add rings and the mounting widgets it looks like all told I'm going to be in the $600-$700 range.

Little more than I wanted to spend but it's really not that bad, and from what I can tell it's a quality product.

My only question is I feel like the scope is a bit expensive. I'm familiar with Leupold optics and I know they're considered the cream of the crop. However is there a decent scope out there for a little less or should I stick with the Leupold?
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Don't scrimp on the scope! A lot of serious hunters will tell you to spend equal amounts on the rifle and the scope, and varmint hunters will probably tell you to spend more on the scope than the rifle. A Remington 700 in .308 has good long range capability, you might as well get a good scope. If you were getting a .30-.30, you could mount a pretty cheap 4X fixed and not spend the extra money, and the scope would be fine for the ranges the gun was. For the .308, you might as well buy the right stuff once. The price he quoted you seems pretty good for a brick and mortar buy.
 
Chambers said:
I believe I have made my choice.
I took everyones advice and looked into the Remington 700 series.
I finally settled on a Remington 700 SPS (?) it's an all black/synthetic stock chambered in 308. The dealer I'm going through wants $419 for it. which is in my price range. He also suggested tricking it out with a Leupold rifleman scope 3-9x40 (well that's what he wrote on the card) for about $200.
add rings and the mounting widgets it looks like all told I'm going to be in the $600-$700 range.

Little more than I wanted to spend but it's really not that bad, and from what I can tell it's a quality product.

My only question is I feel like the scope is a bit expensive. I'm familiar with Leupold optics and I know they're considered the cream of the crop. However is there a decent scope out there for a little less or should I stick with the Leupold?
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That's a GOOD choice in both rifle and caliber. Also, stick with the Leupold scope...It IS worth the money.
 
A good choice in the SPS, you will not regret it. The Leupold has an iron clad warranty, stick with what works.
 
ive got a couple of leupold scopes from the 50-60s, there still verry clear and good scopes. i might have to start using them, ive lost a good bit of vision out of my right eye.
 
Chambers said:
I believe I have made my choice.
I took everyones advice and looked into the Remington 700 series.
I finally settled on a Remington 700 SPS (?) it's an all black/synthetic stock chambered in 308. The dealer I'm going through wants $419 for it. which is in my price range. He also suggested tricking it out with a Leupold rifleman scope 3-9x40 (well that's what he wrote on the card) for about $200.
add rings and the mounting widgets it looks like all told I'm going to be in the $600-$700 range.

Little more than I wanted to spend but it's really not that bad, and from what I can tell it's a quality product.

My only question is I feel like the scope is a bit expensive. I'm familiar with Leupold optics and I know they're considered the cream of the crop. However is there a decent scope out there for a little less or should I stick with the Leupold?
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Nothing wrong with that combo you've chosen.

I have the same rifle--a Remington 700 ADL in .308. Good accurate rifle, and there's plenty of 7.62x51 FMJ ammo out there for practice and zombie shooting. For deer loads (factory) get yourself some 150 gr. Remington Core-Lokt or Winchester Super-X, and you're set. Both cartridges are inexpensive (comparatively), reliable, and proven.

The Rifleman scopes by Leupold are their "Wal-Mart" line of scopes, but they are still good optics and carry the "gold ring" or lifetime warranty from Leupold. I don't recall if they have multicoat lenses, but I think they do.

I put a VX-II in 3-9x40 on my Remington 700, but that scope will run you about another $100 ($299 plus tax most places). I mounted mine with Leupold dual dove-tail rings/bases, but YMMV on the mounts. Whatever you do though, don't skimp on the mounts. Get good rings/bases; they'll pay off in terms of maintaining your scope's "zero" or point of impact.

What else? Get a sling and some form of scope protection. Some folks like the removable bikini covers; others like myself prefer the Butler Creek flip-up lens covers that stay on the scope. Leupold also makes an Alumina series of covers now, but they're a bit pricey.

If you're going to shoot a lot, get a good cleaning rod like those made by Dewey and a decent bore guide. Those cheap aluminum screw-together rods can mess up your gun over time. Finally, clean from the chamber end--not from the muzzle. The muzzle is the last point of contact before your bullet leaves the gun. Problems there can adversely affect accuracy.
 
Chambers said:
My only question is I feel like the scope is a bit expensive. I'm familiar with Leupold optics and I know they're considered the cream of the crop. However is there a decent scope out there for a little less or should I stick with the Leupold?
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Just another note: Leupold is considered a quality mid-priced scope along with brands like Burris, Nikon, Redfield, etc. Lots of folks like Leupold though because of (a) their quality and (b) their warranty/customer service. Both are solid.

But Leupold isn't exactly the cream of the crop. Go ask people who shoot a lot and look at the premier lines of high-end brands like Zeiss or Swarovski. If you're buying, consider a second mortgage first. :D

That said, Zeiss has entered the mid-priced market with some damned fine scopes in their Conquest series. Crystal clear optics with a transferable lifetime warranty equal to that of Leupold. The 3-9x40 Zeiss Conquest MC runs about $450.

My point? Leupold ain't the best scope out there, but for the money, it's hard to beat a Leupold--the Rifleman series included. I own a couple of VX-IIs and really like them. However, if I were thinking about moving up to the VX-III line, with its considerable price jump, I'd take a hard look at the Zeiss Conquest scopes before I bought.

To answer your question... the Leupold Rifleman for $200 is a good deal. The only other quality scope I'd personally recommend at that price point would be a Nikon, but I think I'd go with the Leupold first. Others here may have different suggestions, but them's my two cents.
 
I love my burris fullfield 2 3-9x, it has similar coating to the Leupold VXII and costs about 100 dollars less. Cost me 200 from Bass Pro if I remember right. You can see at night as good as with the naked eye. You can pay more for a scope, but the increase in capability will be negligible. Don't get me wrong you can buy a swarovski and it is a wonderful scope or a Zeiss, but only if you feel it's really necessary and you just must have the best. By the way if I were to spend more the conquest is a great idea. I did an internship with them in Jena. They are really nice people over there and they make great stuff.
 
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