Rifle under 200USD?

My SKS is dead on at 100. I scouted it with a new mount, and it's even better. There have been a few recent shootings with SKS's, and while tragic, they certainly show the lethality of the weapon.
 
jeffreyliu838 said:
Regarding the approval of Wilson Combat's guns...Gun manufacturers need to get their guns approved by our state? That kinda sucks...
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Why, yes it does !

Back when the Rodney King riots were going on, people flocked to the gunstores to buy a gun for protection against the mobs.

Many of those people were shocked to learn that the 10 day waiting period for buying guns that they smugly championed and bragged about having........ALSO applied to them! :eek:

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Right now, I'm thinking mosin, unless anyone can convince me otherwise.
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A Mosin would be a great choice, especially if you opt for a Finn M-39. Not to say the Soviet Mosins don't have potential, but you need to be selective- make sure the crown is good, the bore is good, the trigger is good, etc...The M-39's are a top notch rendition of Mosin. My VKT cost $183 last September.
 
If you're looking for a surplus bolt-action military rifle for mainly target shooting, there's nothing wrong with the Mosin. However, an Ishapore Enfield would permit you to fire 7.62 NATO (or .308 hunting ammo). I'll bet the 7.62 NATO is cheaper and easier to find than the Russian 7.62 x 54R that the Mosin takes. Perhaps also a little bit less recoil.

DancesWithKnives
 
Actually, 7.62x54R is FAR cheaper than .308. I can get 500 rounds of 7.62x54R for $80, the cheapest I can find .308 is Lithuanian surplus at $220 for 400 rounds. That makes 7.62x54R almost THREE times cheaper than .308. You won't find a surplus rifle with cheaper ammo than the Mosin.
 
Wow, I'm surprised! I haven't bought surplus .308 in several years but I used to get the Venezuelan (average accuracy) and the Argentinian (very good accuracy) for around $200 per thousand round case. Looks like those days are long gone....

Thanks for the correction,

DancesWithKnives
 
jeffreyliu838 said:
Wow. 7.62x39 costs twice as much.

So how accurate are these m39's?

Thanks for the help. guys. Appreciate it.
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On a 40 shot 200 yard prone high-power course, I shot a 357 out of 400 with my M-39 using 1952 Bulgarian surplus light ball. I'll post the target later if I can find it.
 
just remember that surplus ammo is corrosive so you'll need to clean up after shooting. this can be as simple as running a patch soaked in windex through the barrel or you can pick up a couple of brands of solvent that clean and protect the bore. do a search for mosin nagant forums and do a little reading there's a ton of info out there.
 
Aim Surplus is the place for very cheap Mosin ammo. Spray some windex down the bore and also wipe down the bolt face after shooting and you're good. Also, if you find a M39, get it--its a Finnish Mosin, and far more accurate than the Russian ones.
 
jeffreyliu838 said:
I dunno. I'd like something semi auto with a detachable mag. Might sound childish, but I want something with a cool factor, you know? No point in buying a boring gun.

I might save up for an M1 Carbine, unless I find out that those are illegal in cali...If not, maybe a Garand... That PLING!!! from the en bloc hitting the floor is ridiculously cool. Those are really pricey though.

Those groupings are pretty decent...Definitely better than the SKS.

Any more suggestions?
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You said the magic word... "save". Adding another $100, $200 bucks or so may delay your purchase but would open up a whole new list of possibilities. The "cool factor" is rarely cheap. Well something does come to mind but it's not a rifle... A Walther P22 is cheap, with a TAC65 Suppressor it's cool, really cool, and with or without the suppressor ammo is cheap enough to shoot 'til your trigger finger falls off.

If you just want to have fun and shoot a LOT don't discount the 22LR.
 
M1 carbines and M1 Garands are generally OK in the Republik, unless you have some version with too many "evil features". Needless to say, the DCM program is a good source.

I don't know what M1 carbine ammo costs these days but I can tell you that the 30-06 for the Garand is no longer a bargain like the 7.62 x 54R discussed above. However, with more significant recoil than an AK or AR and a steel buttplate, you probably won't be going through quite as many 30-06 rounds on each trip to the range (unless you start using recoil pads, etc.).

DancesWithKnives
 
One option that I have not seen suggested is the MECH TECH Carbine.

It is NOT a weapon, in and of itself. It requires a frame to be attached, either a 1911 style or Glock and it works like a pistol carbine.

I like mine !

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