Rights for knives

[Roger Huynh]

I need help explaining to friends why knives aren't for psychopaths but for everyone. Why they are tools and not weapons. So please gives tons and tons of good reasoning. And thanks for helping.

 

[knarfeng]

I've carried a pocket knife as an everyday tool for well over 50 years.
As a young man I worked as a construction worker, truck driver, lab tech, and half a dozen other jobs. All of them had small cutting jobs attached to them.

For the last 30 years I've been an urban home owner. Houses need little fixes constantly. I use a pocket knife for
Cutting twine used to tie bundles of brush clippings.
Cutting garden hose so I can attach a new fitting.
Trimming the flash of plastic parts.
Opening boxes
Opening blister packs
Trimming the odd branch.
Smoothing a roughened board to remove splinter-type projections.

 

[Roger Huynh]

Thanks knarfeng this would definetly help me explain to friends how useful a knife is

 

[Leftytwogunz]

Tell those noobs that there are tons of types of knives out there with tons of uses other than weapons.

utility knife for cutting boxes, tape etc. Work related tasks.

kitchen knife Used daily by their moms to make their dinner

Fillet knife for preparing fish

pruning knife for the garden

Machete/axes used for clearing bush, trails, chopping wood, etc.

butter knife they probably use one of these every day

Swiss army knife

traditional pocket knives used daily by probably millions of people

Every day carry knives

camping/outdoor knives

As far as weapons go, if it isn't one of these, or something similar, I don't consider it a weapon.

Dagger, Sword

Best of luck.

 

[killgar]

I need help explaining to friends why knives aren't for psychopaths but for everyone. Why they are tools and not weapons. So please gives tons and tons of good reasoning. And thanks for helping.

Make a list of all the things that YOU use a knife for. Share that list with your friends. Teach by example.

Or, get new friends.

If I met someone who believed that only psychopaths carried/used/liked knives, that person would never become my friend.

 

[skyhorse]

Your friends have been indoctrinated,get new friends.

 

[Greek_God]

Knives have been used as tools for thousands of years and not only for killing. Does your friend not cut his food with a knife? Then is he a sociopath?

Personally, I do not like when people associate knives with murderers. That is not what they are meant for.

Some uses for knives:

Opening letter, package, cutting food, prying drywall (some do this), cutting zip ties, a seat belt if you get in an accident and are trapped, and the most severe that I wish no one has to use their knives for is self defense. There are many more uses for knives but I am rather tired and can not think on this early morning.

 

[Samon]

Any hobbyist interested in an object/subject socially deemed as threatening will likely encounter the same reaction. That, coupled with mocking jokes referring to size of said hobbyists penis. lol

One particular advocate of aforementioned jokes has been slowly converted via the 'need' of a knife to keep in the house to open packages and occasionally put in the tool box when working on the super bike. This particular individual now has 2 fixed blades, admittedly both cheap Hultafors branded ones, but with desires of grander models! ;but still argues the 'need' to have a pocket knife on ones person...


Simply put, you can't win them all, but some are weak, impressionable and just as nerdy as us. (tbh though this douche had about 2 years on WOW and likely 10+ years on eve, but I'm the geek, with a small pecker.)

 

[thatsaknife]

Many tools can be used as weapons its all about context.
A gardener spends his day with a machete close at hand. Until he chops someone with it no one considers him a threat.
A few years ago a farm worker goes mad and killed a manager with a machete. He was shot and killed by another manager. If he went mad and no machete was at hand a spade,hoe,pick axe,axe shovel or fork was still available to him. All are very capable of delivering a lethal blow.

 

[Inazone]

I can think back to all sorts of times, at work or at home or out and about, where being without the most basic tools made a simple job take far longer than necessary, with lots of wasted effort. Knives are among the most basic tools in human history, and used far, far more often for utility cutting purposes than as weapons. I think it's often overlooked by many people that using a sharp edge, be it a knife or scissors or whatever, is in fact the right way to do many tasks, not tearing with one's hands or teeth or with a plastic spork.

 

[B34NS]

No one would enjoy the pleasures of dining out if us chefs couldn't carry our knives everyday.

 

[DAVE_M]

Knives come in different shapes and sizes, designed for different tasks.

I use a utility knife quite often, especially while in the garage. They make cutting boxes easy work and blades are cheap/replaceable.
I use a 3 1/2" drop point saber ground folding knife for every day tasks: opening mail, cutting zip ties, cutting food, etc.
I use a 4" Scandi ground knife when I go hiking/backpacking. It works well for outdoor tasks and is easy to sharpen in the field.

For example, these are all knives, designed to used for different intentions:

You wouldn't use the Candiru to clear brush, and you wouldn't use the Junglas to open your mail.

- The issue lies with what most people view as a knife. You say knife and they think weapon.
- They think a folding knife is just a folding weapon.
- You say pocket knife and they think you mean the Case Peanut that their Grandpa carries.

It's the same for anything that people have little knowledge about.

When I was younger, I played competitive paintball. The overall cost of my gun (marker), cost roughly $1,000. People would constantly ask me why do I need something that expensive, when the cheap ones at Walmart do the same thing. Point is... They just don't get it and don't care to. Some people just want every their way and that's that.

 

[Roger Huynh]

I just want to thank you guys for all the great responses.

 

[KnifeMakeReplicate]

Knives are man's oldest actual tool, if you exclude fire-making and found items like sharpened bones or pieces of wood and found rock. I really can't add much to the excellent responses. I like your comments.

 

[leghog]

I need help explaining to friends why knives aren't for psychopaths but for everyone. Why they are tools and not weapons. So please gives tons and tons of good reasoning. And thanks for helping.

Simply ask them if they ever need to cut or slice anything. No other comment is necessary even if they won't answer or accept it. Maybe you could then hand them something packaged in a welded plastic blister pack.

You can't fix stupid, so don't try.

 

[ichor]

Difficult for me to come up with anything for you, since I'm totally baffled by people who are so dense/ignorant/clueless. And I have to ask....what do these people do when they need to cut something? Do they exist in a world so different than ours that they never run into a situation which requires that something be cut.
Quote knarfeng:
"Cutting twine used to tie bundles of brush clippings.
Cutting garden hose so I can attach a new fitting.
Trimming the flash of plastic parts.
Opening boxes
Opening blister packs
Trimming the odd branch.
Smoothing a roughened board to remove splinter-type projections." :

....and the list goes on and on.....and ON.

I mean, do servants follow these dimbulbs around in case something needs cutting? What could explain this degree of obtuseness? They've been living on the moon all this time? No, that can't be it. I'd be willing to bet Neil Armstrong , John Glenn, and Sally Ride cut something while on their marvelous and astounding trips.

I'm with leghog on this: "You can't fix stupid, so don't try."

Waste of time.

 

[Inazone]

While I was in the process of cutting open some sort of package, a co-worker actually asked me "Why are you carrying a weapon?"

I looked her straight in the eye and said "It's not a weapon, it's a tool. I'm using it to cut open this package."

Doesn't get much more obvious than that.

 

[leghog]

While I was in the process of cutting open some sort of package, a co-worker actually asked me "Why are you carrying a weapon?"

I looked her straight in the eye and said "It's not a weapon, it's a tool. I'm using it to cut open this package."

Doesn't get much more obvious than that.

You can't fix stupid,...

 

[james terrio]

Simply point your friends and family towards Knife Rights and American Knife & Tool Institute. I invite you all to join me in supporting them!

 

[killgar]

You can't fix stupid,...

Although I generally agree with this, I have seen several people on this forum over the years tell stories about how they were able to convince anti-knife people that knives, and carrying a knife, has legitimate and practical value. And in some cases, they actually converted them into "knife people" who started buying knives of their own.

I'm not saying that I would try to convert people, because I don't think I ever would. But apparently it can be done. And if it can be done, and if people choose to try, then perhaps they can be successful. And wouldn't it make the world a better place if they are successful.

Also, Kniferights has been very successful in convincing politicians to repeals knife laws around the US. I imagine it was quite a challenge to convince an elected politician to look upon switchblades, or knives in general as something other than weapons. But they (Kniferights) made the effort, and succeeded in doing just that. And many people are now enjoying the benefits of their efforts.