RMJ Kalihawk

Saw this on facebook the other day after someone accidentally leaked it. I'm looking forward to RMJ releasing more specs on it.
 
A bit of googling brought me down a rabbit hole and it seems Doug Marcaida may have had some influence on the design, and it would appear he has a KaliHawk in a few pictures...

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Why are fighting hawks getting smaller and smaller and smaller? If they'd label it "CQC Hawk" or something like that I'd say okay but - I just don't get it. Look at this tiny little thing...
 
Shirk24 said:
Why are fighting hawks getting smaller and smaller and smaller? If they'd label it "CQC Hawk" or something like that I'd say okay but - I just don't get it. Look at this tiny little thing...
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That was my question too. I think carry and concealability might be the design priorities. My question has been, how low (short) can you go before you loose any of the main advantages associated with a hawk?? I'm no expert, but I'd still love to hear the CQC experts comment.
 
dogrunner said:
That was my question too. I think carry and concealability might be the design priorities. My question has been, how low (short) can you go before you loose any of the main advantages associated with a hawk?? I'm no expert, but I'd still love to hear the CQC experts comment.
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I had an hatchet in this size after a handle failure and I have to say... it's too small for me. I'd rather go with a knife in the same size because you can stab. The hatchet with the short handle just felt so weird, kind of like getting no force into the head. But I'm also interested what other people think. If I'd pick a real fighting hawk, I'd take a 21/22 inch handle with a relative light head. It's easy to maneuver and the force created by swinging it is incredible. They could have labeled it CQC or secret-angent's-for-under-the-jacket-hawk :D
 
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Its cool and all, but with such a tiny hawk and probably minuscule weight ontop of rmj's rediculess msrp is it functional? I dont really see the practicality beyond last ditch concealment. I dont see it doing a lot of damage had you need to use it.
 
low head weight to handle distribution and as shirk said about being too small and not being able to generate enough lethal force. I too would rather a solid blade.
 
You think that's compact?? That's nothing........this is compact. Lol.....got this for Christmas as a stocking stuffer.

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I previously owned a Winkler Stealth Axe (9" overall length and 4-3/4" head) which is close size-wise to this RMJ offering. It was expertly crafted, but I found it to be too small for my needs. Anyone lusting over the Kalihawk should really handle one before making the investment, as it is surprisingly compact. A hawk that small may fill a specific task and be great for covert ops, but I'd prefer a stout blade along the line of a Becker or heavy duty Bowie-style in lieu of a micro-hawk.
 
It think the name encapsulates the purpose...KALI. A hawk that size can be comparable to a Karambit and allows for quick hooking and joint manipulation where you're very much in the other person's space. Is it useful for other chores, or even fighting styles? Probably not. Very much a niche weapon in this case, IMO
 
I'd like to see the weight specs. A small heavy hawk would pack a lot more energy than a comparable sized but lighter knife, and the possibility of hooking with it. Very much a niche weapon. Doug Marcaida does a lot of joint manipulation/extended contact, so the smaller size is a big plus in that regard. Very cool, but am wondering about the practical application as well, cannot see it.
 
And I was thinking the RMJ designed CRKT Kangee hawk I picked up was undersized at 14" overall length... :rolleyes::D

They should've called it the midgi-hawk instead 'cause it's pint sized and kind of comical.
 
Czechmate said:
And I was thinking the RMJ designed CRKT Kangee hawk I picked up was undersized at 14" overall length... :rolleyes::D

They should've called it the midgi-hawk instead 'cause it's pint sized and kind of comical.
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I would not think it funny at all to get hit by it! I'm sure you wouldn't either :) My question is not whether or not it is a useable as a weapon, but rather under what circumstances it is preferable to have that in your hand vs something else or nothing. Small, hard, sharp object with a handle is what it is. But assuming a firearm is not an option (or we would not even be talking about edged weapons), why not a knife (mass, no hooking capability, but has a stabby point)? What do you get from a small hawk? How much specialized training do you need to really get that value from it? Who should carry one (again, assuming we are not just buying to possess cool objects) ?
And back to my previous question - 12-14" seems to be pretty common as a "compact" hawk - so how low can you go and still have it serve "better" than different choices?
 
dogrunner said:
I would not think it funny at all to get hit by it! I'm sure you wouldn't either :) My question is not whether or not it is a useable as a weapon, but rather under what circumstances it is preferable to have that in your hand vs something else or nothing. Small, hard, sharp object with a handle is what it is. But assuming a firearm is not an option (or we would not even be talking about edged weapons), why not a knife (mass, no hooking capability, but has a stabby point)? What do you get from a small hawk? How much specialized training do you need to really get that value from it? Who should carry one (again, assuming we are not just buying to possess cool objects) ?
And back to my previous question - 12-14" seems to be pretty common as a "compact" hawk - so how low can you go and still have it serve "better" than different choices?
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You're right, I wouldn't want to get hit by it! :eek::D

I think it'd be useable as a weapon, however, it's size loses a lot of a hawk's main advantages which are reach and impact force in my opinion. To me it falls into the category of "neat, but too specialized to be useful or necessary" and has been created based on somewhat of a fad (micro tactical axes) and will sell because of marketing hype... ;)
 
In the above picture, why is Mr. Marcaida's hand against the cutting edge of his opponent's blade? Seems like a bad idea to me...
 
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