RMJ Kalihawk

El Bandit0 said:
In the above picture, why is Mr. Marcaida's hand against the cutting edge of his opponent's blade? Seems like a bad idea to me...
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Yeah, I've seen a lot of his Kali videos and I have to say... he's always putting himself into the way of the enemies weapon. I have no clue how it should be successful. If the enemy now reacts instead of just standing there like made of stone, he would always hurt himself if they would fight for real. 22" hawk for me.
 
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It seems these pint sized hawks have really taken favor in the FMA circles. The videos always make them look very skilled with it with the quick slashes and hooking. In my experience though I find hawks to snag up very easily unlike knives. Try slashing with a hawk against a wooden pell sometime.

It is a distance and power weapon to me, not a etreme cqb weapon like we see here. It is cool though and i'm sure I would like one if they were cheaper:D
 
Simple Jumper said:
A bit of googling brought me down a rabbit hole and it seems Doug Marcaida may have had some influence on the design, and it would appear he has a KaliHawk in a few pictures...

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In the above picture, why is Mr. Marcaida's hand against the cutting edge of his opponent's blade? Seems like a bad idea to me...



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It looks like Doug lost a couple fingers from those techniques. . .;)

Any more KaliHawk sightings?
 
It looks neat and would probably appear very scary to the average attacker and yes as a hawk lover I'd get 1, but I'm gonna lose distance the weight transfer when I swing it so it's really no better than a large or even med knife....but to each his own. Like I said I'd buy 1 and maybe it's more useful than it appears and yes I'd even Carry it just for fun but who know it maybe winner and I'm just plain wrong....I think if you like it you should buy 1 who cares what anyone but you thinks
 
El Bandit0 said:
In the above picture, why is Mr. Marcaida's hand against the cutting edge of his opponent's blade? Seems like a bad idea to me...
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In our defensive knife tactics class for work, we were told early on, if you're involved in a fight where a knife is present, you will get cut. Expect this. The trick, is not letting your opponent cut something important.
 
Lapp_Dance said:
In our defensive knife tactics class for work, we were told early on, if you're involved in a fight where a knife is present, you will get cut. Expect this. The trick, is not letting your opponent cut something important.
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Lots of important muscles in that part of the hand...
 
Vertebrae said:
Lots of important muscles in that part of the hand...
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And looks pretty close to the wrist. We trained being taught the same gonna get cut in a knife fight but our instructors emphasized sacrificing the bottom of the forearm, the bone edge, when it came to it.
 
It might be a pikal blade and that is the spine side he is blocking.
Not to belabor the obvious, but sacrificing body parts may become necessary if things are not going well, but usually not part of a primary defense (i.e. you don't do it on purpose, only if you can't avoid getting cut and that's the least bad option.)
 
To be honest, the Kalihawk doesn't really do anything for me (admission-I have my heart set on a Jenny Wren and a hawk from Helm Forge).
That said, what Jay just posted looks enticing.


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No offense to the Kali, but I think I'd rather spend the money on an Estwing tomahawk and just shorten the tang portion to a similar length.
 
dogrunner said:
It might be a pikal blade and that is the spine side he is blocking.
Not to belabor the obvious, but sacrificing body parts may become necessary if things are not going well, but usually not part of a primary defense (i.e. you don't do it on purpose, only if you can't avoid getting cut and that's the least bad option.)
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With uke's hand caught like that between the spike and palm, there is nothing left for travel on the cutting edge. Assuming the left forearm is grinding across, the cut won't be anything too bad. Gotta say though, if you're going to trap on a knife hand, the edge of the palm should be across the guy's knuckles, no lower. Easier said than done yes, but if you feel it slipping, get it outta there, jam at the bicep etc.
I've seen tape of his students doing hawk drills, they appear to execute conservatively, nothing flash.
 
dogrunner said:
That was my question too. I think carry and concealability might be the design priorities. My question has been, how low (short) can you go before you loose any of the main advantages associated with a hawk?? I'm no expert, but I'd still love to hear the CQC experts comment.
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EXACTLY what i was thinking. I'd rather have a 7" combat knife than that hawk if i found myself in a hand to hand fight.
 
Reminds me of the Malay Kapak binjai:image.jpg
And a little integral one I made:image.jpg
They're used as a kerambit/knuckleduster hybrid and are very much a niche weapon.
Dude with a tire iron would give you a serious run for your money.
They are cute though. I'd rather have a knife.
 
Lapp_Dance is correct, that is the Bawidamann Ragnarok. I missed that one, but I do have a Kalihawk on the way.
 
Shirk24 said:
Why are fighting hawks getting smaller and smaller and smaller? If they'd label it "CQC Hawk" or something like that I'd say okay but - I just don't get it. Look at this tiny little thing...
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Watch this...⤵
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOMYdnxl1oE
You're missing the point. Mr. Marcaida frequently states that blades are never meant to be seen, but to be felt. It's never the size that makes a baddie think twice but the cold pain when you're taking chunks from him or poking holes.

On the same note you should be choosing the kalihawk to aid and enhance your specific martial art or, on the other hand, learn how to use kali/silat.

Redirecting and control, friend
 
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