RMJ Tactical prices (wtf?)

Overpriced is always relative. Especially if you have no idea what performance and quality are. I do agree that the are certainly in the premium segment. Is it warranted? No idea.
 
My RMJ's, great work.

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They made one of the finest hawk in business. The balance and design are even better than many custom in the same price range, they also came with great reputation of life time warranty which you may need for hawk type of thing more than knife... I think they are expensive but not overpriced just like Busse, CRK etc.
 
I have not owned any, but I do yearn for a Kestrel. The products are spendy, but in my experience with them in person, they reek of quality. Very nicely finished and fit and finish is superb.

The hawks come VERY sharp too, I can tell you that also from experience.

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I'm torn, I have had 3 rmj hawks. Still have a shrike. His forged hawks were unique and fantastic quality. They have since stopped forging hawks and completely switched to CNC machining them, which is a move in the wrong direction to me. Everyone and their grand mammy is using cnc in a very non original way, which is meh, to me.

Ryan is a business man and knows to charge what people will pay.

Regarding his knives, I believe he ventured into knives because he knew there was money to be made. He is a capitalist which I can't knock.

All that said, I don't think his prices for the process they undergo is proportional to ME.
 
madcap_magician said:
They have excellent sheaths, which is actually one way I judge makers, because for too many of them, sheaths are afterthoughts. Someone who puts time, thought, and energy into sheath design and manufacture speaks well for his company.
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I can't speak to RMJ, but I believe overall packaging and presentation (to me) also plays a bit of a role at least. Even small things can enhance a buying experience a lot in my opinion, it's just different if you open some cardboard box, a shrink wrapped knife plops out and there you go. Sure, it's utilitarian and works just fine, after all you bought the knife and not the box. But even at a few dollars more, something like Kizer or Reate does at similar price points just makes it a bit more special, where you remove an outer sleeve, then open the box, inside you find that neat little branded zipper pouch, unzip it and find your nice in a cozy protected sleeping bag ( :D ) , it just feels nicer overall.
The thing is, to me it also shows a level of pride in their own work, it might be subjective and is just a bit of a "Well we gotta do a bit more to compete", but I feel like it shows also that extra bit of care ala "We built a nice product and we want to present it as such, it's worth to use to ship it appropriately with the same care we put into creating it."
If I had to compare it, it would be the same when buying an expensive Lambo/Ferrari/Whatever, which can either get dumped by Joey the Tow Truck driver in the next street over and he throws the keys onto your lawn or being invited to the dealership to have that whole presentation going on with the car being unveiled and champagne getting popped. Yeah, you still end up with a Lambo, but which buying experience feels more appropriate/nice?
 
I don't care about fancy bags or a piano box for display and of course the required gram shots.

A good solid tool and and a reliable sheath is what I need.

After that as I've said before stuff I like is a great bargain and stuff I don't like is overpriced.

Hard to put any context into the OP's observations without knowing his background and what he feels isn't overpriced.
 
Sometimes I fail to understand these kinds of queries.

Do you want an RMJ product and you feel they are overpriced? If you want one, you must feel the quality is there. Or do you have no interest in them and are just pointing out that they are overpriced? If that's the case, who cares, right? The market will or won't bear the pricing and things will sort themselves out.

I'm not throwing any shade. I guess I just sort value questions out differently. I doubt virtually anything I own is "worth" what I paid. I think all but maybe two of my knives are "overpriced" - but that's just the way it is. Clearly all the overpriced ones still fell within the range of acceptable to me for my perceived value of them.

Of course, you could just be having a conversation.

I know I have been eye-hustling that Death Dealer Hawk RMJ makes...
 
shinyedges said:
I'm torn, I have had 3 rmj hawks. Still have a shrike. His forged hawks were unique and fantastic quality. They have since stopped forging hawks and completely switched to CNC machining them, which is a move in the wrong direction to me. Everyone and their grand mammy is using cnc in a very non original way, which is meh, to me.

Ryan is a business man and knows to charge what people will pay.

Regarding his knives, I believe he ventured into knives because he knew there was money to be made. He is a capitalist which I can't knock.

All that said, I don't think his prices for the process they undergo is proportional to ME.
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I don't particularly agree. If you follow Ryan on Facebook for a while, I get the impression he's one of those guys who'd be making knives and tomahawks if he didn't make a dime. I don't think he has a lot to do with the business side of things at this point anyway, though I could be wrong.

RMJ pays a lot of attention to details, their sheaths are very functional and refined, same with the designs. And when I look at similar product lines (like Winkler II), they are in the same price bracket which tells me that is where the price is for US-made hawks with quality sheaths...
 
Burke said:
I don't particularly agree. If you follow Ryan on Facebook for a while, I get the impression he's one of those guys who'd be making knives and tomahawks if he didn't make a dime. I don't think he has a lot to do with the business side of things at this point anyway, though I could be wrong.

RMJ pays a lot of attention to details, their sheaths are very functional and refined, same with the designs. And when I look at similar product lines (like Winkler II), they are in the same price bracket which tells me that is where the price is for US-made hawks with quality sheaths...
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Maybe, to each their own though.

I can't disagree with the quality of the Hawks I've had/have.
 
shinyedges said:
I'm torn, I have had 3 rmj hawks. Still have a shrike. His forged hawks were unique and fantastic quality. They have since stopped forging hawks and completely switched to CNC machining them, which is a move in the wrong direction to me. Everyone and their grand mammy is using cnc in a very non original way, which is meh, to me.

Ryan is a business man and knows to charge what people will pay.

Regarding his knives, I believe he ventured into knives because he knew there was money to be made. He is a capitalist which I can't knock.

All that said, I don't think his prices for the process they undergo is proportional to ME.
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Great post

I have three of his early hawks and they are quality items
 
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