Road rage victim turns tables on pursuer…

Jaxx

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I hope no one minds me posting this here, but I've been hangin' out over here a lot lately and I had to get this out...

I just got off the phone with a very good friend of mine. Check this $#!& out.
My friend was on her way home from working 3rd shift tonight, driving on Rt.76 here outside Philadelphia. She's a skilled driver, so she's working the gaps a little, and wound up squeezing in front of another vehicle, who's driver was miffed about her move in front of him even though she didn't actually cut him off, just eased into the left lane in front of this person. This person then proceeds to hit the high beams and tailgate her very tightly on down the highway. She tries to put distance between them but the driver persists. Finally she taps the brakes, and then stomps them, but the driver was apparently ready for that and brakes with her. Now, she says, several other drivers are keeping pace and watching these 2, now doing 25mph on the highway. Approaching her exit, she picks up the cell phone and calls her husband to tell him to meet her at the street and expect incoming trouble. She hits the gas, veers onto the exit, takes the blind right turn (it is actually a double right, sorta like a 'U' turn under a bridge) at 60+ ON THE RED LIGHT, and races up the hill towards her house. The OTHER driver stays with her aggressively move for move and pursues her all the way.
She takes a screaming left turn onto her street and comes to a tire-burning halt sideways, just as the road-rager takes the final turn and grinds to a stop with the door already open. Just as the man stepped out of the car, her husband (armed with both 3+ years of martial arts experience combined with a hair poppin’ sharp hatchet) jumps out of the shadows, 'met' him at the car and man-handles the guy back into the car, stating that he'd better stay in there or he'll get cut up "real bad", while my friend's freakin' on him & calling the cops. Finally, the guy figures there's nothing that he can possibly do that won't get him severely messed up, he screeches off down the dead-end street. 2 minutes later, he comes back the other way and my friend starts freakin' on him again, and her husband starts towards the car when the guy pleads with then to calm down and tell him HOW TO GET BACK TO THE HIGHWAY!!! CAN ya BELIEVE it??? He was so fixated on pounding my friend with his fists that he followed her DEEP into a neighborhood without even caring about how to get back out to the highway... He had a New Jersey tag, definitely not local. She said that he kept repeating, "You are so lucky you're not a man.". She kept asking why? why? I don't doubt that this guy would pulled her from that car like a rag-doll, as small as she is, and pounded her silly had her husband not been there for her at that moment! (TG he wasn't at work!) I told her that he's the man!!! AND he might get one of my Combat FBM's for the next 'right' occasion!!! Score one for the 'prey'! :D :thumbup: Guy’s lucky to be breathing. People need to chill!!! Needless to say, she's freaked out, but very lucky on all counts considering...!

Ok, I’m done. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! :grumpy: :mad: :thumbdn:
Thanks for readin’ :thumbup: :cool:
Jaxx:grumpy:
 
Lucky the driver had no Gun and lucky he didn't escalate the problem

Actually, in this situation, the DRIVER is lucky that he didn't come out of the car with a gun. M'boy was anticipating just that and the driver didn't see him coming until it was tooooooo late. He got blindsided. :D
We don't play here in Philly. :mad: A gun is not ALWAYS the best weapon.
"Do not use a cannon to kill a mosquito." ~ Confuscius

Jaxx:cool:
 
I'm glad everything turned out OK, but I hope your friend realizes that if she hadn't been "working the gaps" at 65mph none of this would have happened. When two cars are following each other at a safe distance on the highway, and you pull in between them, you are creating an unsafe condition and that may piss some people off since the person behind you is now tailgaiting you by YOUR choice. Also, slamming on the brakes at freeway speed because someone is following too close already is a great way to get many people hurt or killed. It sounds like the other guy was a victim of road rage also.

Like I said, I'm glad everything worked out, but we ALL need to calm down when driving. Just my $.02...;)
 
there is no excuse for following someone, but i agree with locomike to some degree. she seems to have created some of the problem then making it worse by braking (slamming on brakes) and slowing to 25 mph. what is known in law enforcement circles as 'creating your own exigency', that is contributing to a problem to the point where force must be used. the force may be legal,in and of itself, but the situation that necessitated the force was created by the party needing to use force.

but, what amounts to a couple traffic violations in no way justifies following someone home to confront them, verbally or physically, just to reiterate.

and i am glad she was ok.
 
Glad it turned out ok, but could easily have turned out like this http://cbs13.com/topstories/local_story_316180029.html
I live right down the street and missed it by only a couple minutes.

Oh, I heartily agree and did chew her out a bit for the reckless maneuver, stating just that sort of thing, but I wasn't there and can't give too much crap considering the scenario. She got lucky pure & simple. Heck, everyone did in this case.
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although road rage is common, as adults we must consider whether a traffic violation is worth ones safety. and given that it has become so common, with freeway shootings and such, you never know who you are dealing with.

in your friend's case she seems to have been lucky that her husband outmatched the attacker.

however tough i think i may be, there is always someone tougher.
 
I'm glad everything turned out OK, but I hope your friend realizes that if she hadn't been "working the gaps" at 65mph none of this would have happened...

TRUE WORDS my friend, and I gave her some crap for that too.

MORIMOTOM: I definitely agree with you, my Brother, however, she did tell me that she tried to allow him to pass her by moving back into the right lane and he wouldn't, choosing instead to drop in behind and highbeam/tailgate her. That's when she braked, then remained at 25 hoping he'd get bored and pass her. No luck there, that's when the following apparently took place... But, you speak the truth! She's a speeder... Heck me too, but I don't 'push' and I think that she's a bit too aggressive sometimes. Even so, like you said, he should have reined it in long before reaching her house.
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sometimes it is hard to rein it in, believe me i know. sounds like she did the right thing by changing lanes, but may have then made it worse by slowing again.

overall, seems to have been a series of poor judgements on both parts, and unfortunately ended at her home. i hope the attacker learned a lesson, as well as your friend.
 
Hi All-

Jaxx, regardless of her "skill" as a driver, is your friend really gaining appreciable time by "working the gaps" on her commute home? My first comment is she should pick a lane and stick to it unless there is a realistic traffic reason to change. She may have been able to negotiate her way out of this with the classic wave and "I'm sorry" expression...even if she fully meant to shoehorn herself into a tight spot.

Secondly, her husband appearing with a hatchet was the wrong choice of tool. Who wants to get involved in bloody hand-to-hand combat with a complete stranger who could be positive for HIV/AIDS/Hep C or other nastiness? He knew in advance he could be getting in a serious altercation...that says "shotgun" to me all week and twice on Sunday.

Great narrative and thanks for sharing. It gives us all a chance to envision a great self-defense scenario and plan and critique ourselves. Thanks again for posting it.

~ Blue Jays ~
 
although road rage is common, as adults we must consider whether a traffic violation is worth ones safety. and given that it has become so common, with freeway shootings and such, you never know who you are dealing with.

in your friend's case she seems to have been lucky that her husband outmatched the attacker.

however tough i think i may be, there is always someone tougher.

She told him the scenario, and that he appeared to be the only occupant... M'boy had about 5 min to prepare. He took a chance, but as I'm sure that YOU are aware of, the element of surprise counts for a great deal when one is faced with battle. The guy was tunnel visioned so much on my friend's car, he didn't see her husband until he was dazed and subdued. LOL Lucky, sho 'nuff, but the cops were 3 min out, and I can't second guess too much! Smart tactics and luck, combined with some skill. It was enough this time. Still scary! I asked her why she actually led the guy home and she said that she had forgotton the get gas and was afraid that unless she came up with a plan, she was going to stall out and be forced to stop. THAT is a scary thought in a situation like this.
 
Hi All-

Jaxx, regardless of her "skill" as a driver, is your friend really gaining appreciable time by "working the gaps" on her commute home? My first comment is she should pick a lane and stick to it unless there is a realistic traffic reason to change. She may have been able to negotiate her way out of this with the classic wave and "I'm sorry" expression...even if she fully meant to shoehorn herself into a tight spot.

Secondly, her husband appearing with a hatchet was the wrong choice of tool. Who wants to get involved in bloody hand-to-hand combat with a complete stranger who could be positive for HIV/AIDS/Hep C or other nastiness? He knew in advance he could be getting in a serious altercation...that says "shotgun" to me all week and twice on Sunday.

Great narrative and thanks for sharing. It gives us all a chance to envision a great self-defense scenario and plan and critique ourselves. Thanks again for posting it.

~ Blue Jays ~

Working the gaps?? nope of course not! But...! Hey, I hear ya, although I'm as guilty as she is. Traffic suxx 'round here all the time now and you ALMOST feel like you somehow saved.... .00000000001 seconds in your commute! LOL
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He has no firearm, and I'm sure that he didn't WANT to use it! ...But GOOD POINT regardless about the medical hazard angle! :thumbup:
 
sometimes it is hard to rein it in, believe me i know. sounds like she did the right thing by changing lanes, but may have then made it worse by slowing again.

overall, seems to have been a series of poor judgements on both parts, and unfortunately ended at her home. i hope the attacker learned a lesson, as well as your friend.

Oh, I definitely think that lessons were learned ALL the way around tonight... Which is why I posted this... With the holidays comin' up, people tend to get... Rushed and :grumpy: and even :mad: and I hope that this serves to get people to think twice or help prepare then for the possibility of a similar situation. Gotta stick together & stay safe in dat mean ole' world! :)

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Ain't gonna quarterback this one. Glad your friend is safe and I'm sorry, but I love the fact that a husband meets the guy with a hatchet. Gun or no gun, if someone were to screw with my friends/family and then comes to my hood, homies getting that hatchet through his windshield. He continued to pursue her, threatening manners... Guy would be leaving with a harsh lesson.

Have her pick up some Mace pepper gel. It's proven to drop crackheads something fierce. OC spray is good, but there ARE people who are used to it and will only beat you that much harder for using OC on them.
 
Ain't gonna quarterback this one. Glad your friend is safe and I'm sorry, but I love the fact that a husband meets the guy with a hatchet. Gun or no gun, if someone were to screw with my friends/family and then comes to my hood, homies getting that hatchet through his windshield. He continued to pursue her, threatening manners... Guy would be leaving with a harsh lesson.

Although I have a house just around the corner from them, its still being renovated and I'm 40mi. away... lucky for guy 'cause I wuz thinkin' about how I would've had to cut him up with DocAndry's mint condition MudWeiler, wouldn't that have been a shame! ...Having to explain it to the Doc, of course! LOL ok, 'nuff chest pounding from over here!! :rolleyes: LOL And don't forget Jaxx's 3 favorite rulz...
1.Check Six
2.Always carry a good knife (Gibb's rule 9, NCIS)
3.Chance favors the prepared
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So, my friend's hubby... Do ya think I should hook him up wit a piece of INFI? DOES he DESERVE to WIELD the MISTRESS??? :eek: :D
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Ain't gonna quarterback this one. Glad your friend is safe and I'm sorry, but I love the fact that a husband meets the guy with a hatchet. Gun or no gun, if someone were to screw with my friends/family and then comes to my hood, homies getting that hatchet through his windshield. He continued to pursue her, threatening manners... Guy would be leaving with a harsh lesson.

Have her pick up some Mace pepper gel. It's proven to drop crackheads something fierce. OC spray is good, but there ARE people who are used to it and will only beat you that much harder for using OC on them.

PEPPER GEL!!! LOL That's EXACTLY what I suggested! No worries about the breeze or blowback. :thumbup:
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