Road rage victim turns tables on pursuer…

So, my friend's hubby... Do ya think I should hook him up wit a piece of INFI? DOES he DESERVE to WIELD the MISTRESS??? :eek: :D
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now THAT would have been interesting! :eek: :eek:

i dont mean to second guess, but decided to post an opinion based on your narrative only. of course we do not know what actually happened, none of us were there and certainly cant get into the mind of the other driver.

but if nothing else, we can all take something useful away, because like you said, during the silly season, everyone is a little more on edge at the malls and, well, silly.
 
I can piss of drivers more than that while on an 18 lb bicycle.

I met with some guys yesterday and talked about raising money for bicycle and car driver awareness. We finally figured that pissed off drives are.... well just pissed off people (like they didn't get that set in the last Ganza or something); and other than paying to send them to a shrink there is nothing we can do about it. They are the same a-holes that are just angry about life and do crap like what is mentioned in this thread and then go home and beat their spouse.

Kind of like Skunks X-wife.
 
Guy cut me off when he passed on the shoulder of a 2 lane road a few years back. Flicked the beams once, kinda like saying hey stupid. For 2 miles he'd speed up and slowed down, stop etc. When the road finally widened I was going to turn right into a funeral home:rolleyes: when he slammed on the brakes and got out. I was blocked by traffic and could go nowhere. By the time he got to my car I'd undid the belt and when he leaned in to grab me he got a M9 tapped on his forehead inside my car. He smelled like a brewery but backed off. If he would have come through the window again I would have shot him no doubt as I had nowhere to go to get out of the situation.
Lesson learned? ALWAYS have a way out. PERIOD. You never know what's going on in the other car. Drunk? Just lost a family member? On the way to a hospital because a family members dying? Spouse just left them? Ya never know.
Just my .02

Bob Mills
 
What's this "working the gaps" BS? I think what you're describing is cutting in front of someone without leaving him a safe following distance so he has to make room for some rude pushy jerkette. And then slaming on the brakes on a fast-moving congested street because he's following aggressively close? Gimme a break. If he hadn't anticipated her dumbass move, she could have caused a multi-car pile up and maybe even have gotten someone killed. And all so she can shave a few seconds off her commute.

Sounds to me like your friend needed a lesson in manners. Maybe not the one she got, but a lesson nonetheless.

She may have been subjected to "road rage," but she sure as hell wasn't a victim. She chose to play a dangerous game that put lots of other people on the road at risk.
 
We all learned it in kindergarten but obviously people choose to forget. Be patient, wait your turn, play nice. It really is that simple.

pete
 
The working the gaps thing is common in Australia, everyone does it. Although road range incidents are un-common and people getting badly hurt is even rarer. It must be fairly scary driving sometimes in the US :/
flatlander speaks the truth, some good words there.
 
Everyone involved in this was very lucky. Life is very fragile and can be lost at any moment to the most unexpected circumstances. I had a friend who was killed when he welched on an $18 bet. Don't make the mistake of thinking that it can never happen to you.

If you can, the first thing you should do when someone is pissed off at you is stand down and walk away if you can. Hormones, life's aggravations, and a myriad of other things contribute to less than perfect decisions all the time. That is NOT to say that you should not be prepared for an escalation, nor do I mean that that was an option in this instance. Personally, if I was this woman, next time, I would drive directly to the police station. It's that simple.

Jaxx, imagine how your friend would have felt if she had hit a child or even someone's pet trying to cross the street while she was trying to evade her pursuer? She would have had to live with that for the rest of her life, if she even could live with it. Like someone here already mentioned, people need to "chill out".
 
Hi! Lost internet last night but back now...

JohnTheTexican "What's this "working the gaps" BS? I think what you're describing is cutting in front of someone without leaving him a safe following distance so he has to make room for some rude pushy jerkette. And then slaming on the brakes on a fast-moving congested street because he's following aggressively close? Gimme a break. If he hadn't anticipated her dumbass move, she could have caused a multi-car pile up and maybe even have gotten someone killed. And all so she can shave a few seconds off her commute.

Sounds to me like your friend needed a lesson in manners. Maybe not the one she got, but a lesson nonetheless.

She may have been subjected to "road rage," but she sure as hell wasn't a victim. She chose to play a dangerous game that put lots of other people on the road at risk."


Although I don't dispute your words, 'cause there is some truth there, bud! But... To be clear, this guy was being such a nuisance apparently, that the few cars around her (between 10-11pm) was just a group that she was attempting to work through, but they were apparently staying with these 2... almost rubbernecking, she said. Behind the group was a long empty stretch. She should've chilled, no doubt. I definitely agree! I think that she will think about it next time... However, whatever vehicular maneuver she had done without causing damage certainly didn't deserve being chased down, with a distinct possibility of bloody violence at the end. She's about 5'5", maybe 110lbs. Maybe. So, I'd say that, the second she moved for her exit and the man decided to pursue with intent to do bodily harm, she did indeed become "victimized", as she feared for her life at this point. Even if she did cause some of the escalation. She's been chewed about that... By ME. LOL
Jaxx:cool:

PS. I did try to write her account without embellishment (as it doesn't seem to need any!), BUT... I wasn't there. I can only take her word.
 
Everyone involved in this was very lucky. Life is very fragile and can be lost at any moment to the most unexpected circumstances. I had a friend who was killed when he welched on an $18 bet. Don't make the mistake of thinking that it can never happen to you.

If you can, the first thing you should do when someone is pissed off at you is stand down and walk away if you can. Hormones, life's aggravations, and a myriad of other things contribute to less than perfect decisions all the time. That is NOT to say that you should not be prepared for an escalation, nor do I mean that that was an option in this instance. Personally, if I was this woman, next time, I would drive directly to the police station. It's that simple.

Jaxx, imagine how your friend would have felt if she had hit a child or even someone's pet trying to cross the street while she was trying to evade her pursuer? She would have had to live with that for the rest of her life, if she even could live with it. Like someone here already mentioned, people need to "chill out".

~~~~~> WORD <~~~~~ Damn good point!!!
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PS. The police were 3+ minutes out when she called and asked for assistance after calling her husband... She did try to get them involved too, but she was 10+ minutes from ANY police station (there were a few units in the area)... She was 2 min or less from her house & she had an empty tank of gas... riding on fumes, she had said.
 
I can piss of drivers more than that while on an 18 lb bicycle.

I met with some guys yesterday and talked about raising money for bicycle and car driver awareness. We finally figured that pissed off drives are.... well just pissed off people (like they didn't get that set in the last Ganza or something); and other than paying to send them to a shrink there is nothing we can do about it. They are the same a-holes that are just angry about life and do crap like what is mentioned in this thread and then go home and beat their spouse.

Kind of like Skunks X-wife.

sometimes otherwise patient and normal people become different behind the wheel of a car. for a variety of reasons thoughtful, patient, nice people become irritable, rude, and discourteous when driving. seems simply getting in a car can change a personality and most peoples stress levels rise anyway.
 
...it was a good move to have the husband armed and ready - the only thing I would have done differently was meet the husband at the street corner somewhere near the house, not at the house. I've seen it happen more than once that a guy will run off with his tail between his legs when threatened, but will come back when the coast is clear and do random damage or worse to someone's property in retaliation. I would not have let on where she lived if I were her...

edited to add: I went back and read it again. I see you don't mention she went all the way to the house, just to her street...that's good
 
When I drive I assume that everybody else on the road is an idiot and give them enough space to keep me safe.
 
Hi! Lost Internet last night but back now...

JohnTheTexican "What's this "working the gaps" BS? I think what you're describing is cutting in front of someone without leaving him a safe following distance so he has to make room for some rude pushy jerkette. And then slamming on the brakes on a fast-moving congested street because he's following aggressively close? Gimme a break. If he hadn't anticipated her dumb ass move, she could have caused a multi-car pile up and maybe even have gotten someone killed. And all so she can shave a few seconds off her commute.

Sounds to me like your friend needed a lesson in manners. Maybe not the one she got, but a lesson nonetheless.

She may have been subjected to "road rage," but she sure as hell wasn't a victim. She chose to play a dangerous game that put lots of other people on the road at risk."


Although I don't dispute your words, 'cause there is some truth there, bud! But... To be clear, this guy was being such a nuisance apparently, that the few cars around her (between 10-11pm) was just a group that she was attempting to work through, but they were apparently staying with these 2... almost rubbernecking, she said. Behind the group was a long empty stretch. She should've chilled, no doubt. I definitely agree! I think that she will think about it next time... However, whatever vehicular maneuver she had done without causing damage certainly didn't deserve being chased down, with a distinct possibility of bloody violence at the end. She's about 5'5", maybe 110lbs. Maybe. So, I'd say that, the second she moved for her exit and the man decided to pursue with intent to do bodily harm, she did indeed become "victimized", as she feared for her life at this point. Even if she did cause some of the escalation. She's been chewed about that... By ME. LOL
Jaxx:cool:

PS. I did try to write her account without embellishment (as it doesn't seem to need any!), BUT... I wasn't there. I can only take her word.

No way. When she cut in front of the guy she was a jerkette, and when she slammed on the brakes, she lost any plausible claim to being a "victim." If she'd just let off the gas and driven slow when she thought he was following too close, she might have something to complain about, but when she intentionally, and without good cause, slammed on her brakes in front of him, she was reckless endangering his life and hers and everyone else's on the road around them. At that point, she gave up any claim to the moral high ground, and any bad thing that might have happened to her after that she would have deserved.

No matter how you try to spin it, one guy can't block traffic on a multi-lane road. If she hadn't cut in front of the "road rage" guy closer that he felt was appropriate, there wouldn't have been a story. But people do it all the time. They pass someone and then get in his lane leaving maybe half a car length following distance, which forces the person who's just been cut in front of to either slow down to make rom for the a**hole who just cut in front of him, or follow at the distance that that a**hole just told him is appropriate.

Your Friend is an a**hole, plain and simple. That doesn't mean that the "road rage" guy wasn't a wanker for not just slowing down and letting the a**hole have her way, but neither of them is coming off very well.

In all likelihood, all she would have had to do to diffuse the situation was to slow down. The road rage wanker would have gotten tired of driving slow behind her and would have ended up passing her going 30 mph faster than she was going, and flipping her off as he passed.

And she would have deserved to be flipped off, because she's an a**hole, but it would have all been over. No real harm done, and no blowing through red lights at 60mph, not threats, and no putting other peoples' lives needlessly at risk.

Your friend need to have someone smack her upside the head. If I were a cop, I would have given her a day or so in jail to consider whether whatever gratification she gets out of playing these games is really worth it. Same goes for the "road rage" wanker, except that from what I read, she was ore responsible for instigating and escalating the situation than the wanker was.

(As it happens, I saw almost this exact situation played out wile I was riding with my ex-wife. Suffice it to say, I'm not buying the bullshit about her being a victim. Chix like to take advantage of our natural protectiveness and pretend that they're poor innocent victims when in reality they've acted badly and intentionally provoked a bad situation, which is exactly what you've described here. As the situation has been described here, of the "road rage" wanker and your friend, your friend is the one whose most in the wrong.)

IMO. YMMV, of course.
 
Local woman just spent a few years in prision because she shot another woman who stopped her car ahead of her on an off ramp and came back to
attack her. The reason she went to jail? She had contributed to the escalation of the incident by jockeying with the other woman on the Interstate Hwy for several miles. Also, she did not attempt to drive around her on the ramp and leave. This was in Alabama, where the law and public attitude is largely sympathetic to self defense shootings.

If you are going armed, as I do, you must always be extra polite, so that you cannot be construed to have provoked or escalated a developing situation.
 
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