Rolex Sea Dweller

Charlie Mike

Charlie Mike

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In a few months I'll be in the market to buy a used SD. How do they do as EDC? What's a reasonable price for one on the secondary market, ebay?
 
It's a fine EDC watch. Rolex are tough and fairly indestructible. I would be extremely hesitant to buy any Rolex on ebay. There are too many good fakes out there, even if it has box/papers that's not proof as those are faked as well. You'd be much better off buying from one of the well known internet watch dealers (there are several that deal in used watches) or from the Sales Corner at Timezone.

It's hard to say what the going rate will be in a few months, right now I'd figure a minimum of $4k for a decent used one.
 
I was thinking 4600 range. Cool. Thanks for the warning.

My EDC for the last year and a half has been a Tag Heuer auto aquaracer.
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Do your homework and start looking, I've seen them under $4K on occasion. Buy from someone that can be trusted. You will never regret the purchase.
 
solidsoldier said:
In a few months I'll be in the market to buy a used SD. How do they do as EDC? What's a reasonable price for one on the secondary market, ebay?
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I hate this format sometimes...had a great message typed out, but it went AWOL
This is a Yaoized MarcelloC Nettuno III...out the door it costs 10% of the SD, WITH a stainless oyster bracelet.

I love my Rolex SeaDweller, but I don't EDC it because it scratches the stainless easily.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
What are the specs on that?
 
If you're up for something that is less common, looks nice and is a lot less money then it's hard to beat Bill Yao's watches. Google 'mk ii watches', it'll be the first one that comes up.
 
The whole reason I bought the Tag was it looked like a Sub and it had all the same specs as far as depth. The SD is my dream watch.
 
solidsoldier said:
The SD is my dream watch.
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If that's what your heart is set on by all means go for it. I learned long ago you'll spend less money in the end if you buy what you want rather than settle for something similar. The only reason I suggested the MKII watches was because you seemed curious about Steven's Yao.

I also just remembered something. At Basel this year Rolex introduced the SD Deepsea which is updated in both looks and depth. The rumor going around is that the older SD is being discontinued and/or that production of SD cases has already stopped. If that's true I would expect to see prices for them begin to rise shortly.
 
The fake issue is huge. About a year ago, OJ Simpson was found wearing a flashy, obviously-expensive Rolex watch. The court had to call in an expert to evaluate it, a very well-known, Rolex-certified jeweler who handles a dozen or more authentic Rolex watches per day... and he had to remove the back and examine the movement to be sure that it was, in fact, a fake. It was a fake, but a fake so good that a well-experienced, Rolex-certifed jeweler had to remove the back to be sure.
 
Same goes for Breitling. Colleague had one that was a perfect fake on the exterior. He had paid good money for it and when it had a problem took it to the local Breitling support center in J'burg. Bing a fake. Basically they look the same but everything is thinner and wears 10x as fast.

Have a browse of the Rolex/Breitling sites and talk to your local registered dealer. Most internet are fake or stolen. Sooner or later you will need to go through a repair/service centre. There are few reasons for someone to sell 2nd hand (individually) over the net when they can get good prices through authorised or reputable channels.

Saying that I managed an excellent Casio on the net through an authorised reseller site. (note they will also sell fake casio)
 
all the fakes i've seen all ya had to do to see it was fake was wash your hands, the crystal would fog up, and these arent just $25 fakes from mexico these are $150 or $200 fakes off the 'net. i simply have never seen one which if ya looked close and knew a little about rolex ya couldnt tell, who hear has seen one that wasnt obvious, seen not heard of?

me, i've never seen one which wasnt pretty obvious, but YMMV. FWIW a bud works at a pawn shop and a guy was pawning a TAG & not a real expensive TAG one of the lower end ones and it ended up being a fake, and a really good one at that, they had to remove the back to be sure, my bud said nothing looked wrong he just felt "funny" about the deal and checked further than he usually would, ya gotta be good to fool a pawnshop lol. dont know if woulda passed the wash your hands test though lol.

theres some places on the net i would trust to buy one, but ya best be carefull thats a lotta $$.
 
There's a whole spectrum of fake Rolexs around, from cheap ones you can spot by the second hand moving in one-second jumps to some that even the experts can only detect by opening the back and looking at the movement. That test is definitive; nobody else makes a movement that looks like a Rolex movement -- but even then it could be a Frankenstein.
 
solidsoldier said:
What are the specs on that?
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http://www.mkiiwatches.com/WSWrapper.jsp?mypage=001mc.htm

2007.5.2
Case: Solid steel case, brushed finish Glass: Saphire crystal, magnifier Soil: Screwdown crown and saphire crystal caseback Bracelet: Solid steel bracelet with deployant buckle, screwed links and diver extension Diameter: 40 mm Height: 13 mm WR to 300 m Specials: Solid end links, unidirectional rotating bezel Luminous hands and markers (Superluminova) Price: € 548

BlackHills said:
If that's what your heart is set on by all means go for it. I learned long ago you'll spend less money in the end if you buy what you want rather than settle for something similar. The only reason I suggested the MKII watches was because you seemed curious about Steven's Yao.
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Sorry, I was in a hurry last night, and wanted to get the pic posted up. To clarify, that is not my watch, boosted the pic from the Poor Man's Watch Forum.....mine has a black date wheel and the SS Oyster bracelet, which is about 97% as good as the SD.

Was not recommending that SS pass over the SD....that watch is sublime...BUT....finding out the hard way how easy it is to scratch the stainless on a Rolex, I have a hard time recommending it for EDC....because you want it to look worn, but not TOO worn...it makes it look like you don't take care of your kit, and with a Rolex, everyone notices this stuff. My recommendation because of this, is to get BOTH watches, because this is what I did, and it has worked out very well.

Solid, if you want, I have a friend who can get Rolex at a very good price, and they come from a factory authorized dealer who moves volume, if I had known this at the time, I would have gone through him, instead of paying a premium and sales tax at Ben Bridge.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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does your friend take wire transfers? That's how I will more than likely pay for it.
 
Gollnick said:
I'm told that the best fake Rolex watches have genuine ETA movements inside.
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They do, but the Rolex movement is house-made, and quite different than the ETA's.

Nothing wrong with a fake Rolex, other than it being fake.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Tim-Gabz said:
Have a browse of the Rolex/Breitling sites and talk to your local registered dealer. Most internet are fake or stolen. Sooner or later you will need to go through a repair/service centre. There are few reasons for someone to sell 2nd hand (individually) over the net when they can get good prices through authorised or reputable channels.
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While there are lots of fakes and no doubt some stolen watches for sale on the net, not all are. I would guess the majority of both are on ebay. There are some very reputable dealers that sell used watches online. Also, take a look at the Sales Corner on Timezone.com....tons of watches for sale by individuals. People sell online because they can get a better price than if they tried to sell it to a dealer.

SIFU1A said:
i simply have never seen one which if ya looked close and knew a little about rolex ya couldnt tell, who hear has seen one that wasnt obvious, seen not heard of?
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I have. I know someone who has a fake Date, it's a very good one. It has an auto movement and the case, dial, band, weight, etc. would fool most people. The markings on the band give it away when you examine it close, but even then you have to know what to look for. All the proper markings are on the band but the "quality" (for lack of a better word) of them isn't the same as on a real Rolex.
 
BlackHills said:
I have. I know someone who has a fake Date, it's a very good one. It has an auto movement and the case, dial, band, weight, etc. would fool most people. The markings on the band give it away when you examine it close, but even then you have to know what to look for. All the proper markings are on the band but the "quality" (for lack of a better word) of them isn't the same as on a real Rolex.
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Logo laser inscription on crystal has to be a tough one to counterfeit?

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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